yooperfan
8 years ago
Almost certainly they had to know that Shields was a huge injury risk but chose to ignore it.
Porforis
8 years ago

Why do anti free agency people always go straight to the top of the pay scale when talking about FA signing?
That's not the only option.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



Then I don't understand what people are asking for. We already have plenty of #3-caliber talent that's not injured. What we're missing is #1 quality talent. And while I apologize if I'm pinning statements on you that you never said because honestly, sometimes people's posts kind of blend together - I hear a LOT of people asking for big free agent signings. Thus my particular post implying that's what people want because I don't recall anybody ever railing on Ted Thompson for not picking up an alright CB.
Porforis
8 years ago

Almost certainly they had to know that Shields was a huge injury risk but chose to ignore it.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



Like Hayward? Funny thing about ignoring risks is that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.
hardrocker950
8 years ago

And what makes you think when we drop 10-15mil on a high end CB that he won't get injured like all our other ones?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



First off - who said anything about 15 mil? I am pretty sure you can find average players for under 15m. Second - you risk injury putting anyone on the field. Third - signing someone after we lost a couple of CBs would be nearly a guarantee of being in a better situation than we are now.
buckeyepackfan
8 years ago

If picking late in the draft is the reason for the decline, then explain the Patriots. Their success is not based on just their draft - they do what Ted should do, and that is SIGN SOME PROVEN TALENT AND FILL THE FUCKING HOLES IN THE ROSTER!

Injuries play their part - but that could have been minimized had Ted gone out and made a deal or two so we had at least someone at CB with some experience. I had hope when he made a deal for Knile, but then went back to sitting on his hands and watching it all burn to the ground.

does anyone seriously think we can't find a better GM?

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



1. What team is second only to New England in wins the last ten years?

2. A bad stretch of 4 games and all of a sudden Ted doesn't know how to draft?

Answer to 1. The Packers
Answer to 2. Poppycock!

I'm gonna put on my Green and Gold glasses and my "Homer" sweatshirt and enjoy the next few weeks and see if The Packers can turn this season around.




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8 years ago

The Patriots have the best coach in the NFL and are a lot more disciple...

But I think you're mistaken about the Patriots... the Patriots sign guys cheaply... both proven AND unproven... and then adjust their systems to the talent of their players. It's rare that the Patriots go out and sign a proven talent for market value.



I believe all positions have the potential be upgraded... but I think it'd be harder than you seem to be suggesting to find a better GM. A lot of teams have tried very hard to find the best GM possible... and most have delivered worse results than Thompson. And that's with Thompson picking lower than most.

I seriously and strongly believe picking the right GM is a lot tougher than people think... why? Because so many people have completely failed at doing it. So it much be tougher than people think.

Originally Posted by: beast 



You mean something similar to the Green Bay record when Aaron was injured a few years ago or the Packers record over the past year when Aaron has been falling on his face? Truth is Ted has been great for years because he had a great QB. The team is very mediocre (poor actually) with no Aaron or an under performing Aaron. Ted got lucky in his first draft. Other than that he hasn't shown much sign of being a world stopper as GM. I would accept that he is average but nothing more than that. Not without Rodgers. That doesn't mean there are not a lot of poor GMs.
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8 years ago

Then I don't understand what people are asking for. We already have plenty of #3-caliber talent that's not injured. What we're missing is #1 quality talent. And while I apologize if I'm pinning statements on you that you never said because honestly, sometimes people's posts kind of blend together - I hear a LOT of people asking for big free agent signings. Thus my particular post implying that's what people want because I don't recall anybody ever railing on Ted Thompson for not picking up an alright CB.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Over a 5-6 year period Ted could land a couple of big dogs. Plainly put he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to even talk to them. In addition he could find a few little dogs. Lastly he would sign a bunch of mutts and see which ones will amount to something.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Over a 5-6 year period Ted could land a couple of big dogs. Plainly put he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to even talk to them. In addition he could find a few little dogs. Lastly he would sign a bunch of mutts and see which ones will amount to something.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Ted just signed Jared Cook this year.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DoddPower
8 years ago

You mean something similar to the Green Bay record when Aaron was injured a few years ago or the Packers record over the past year when Aaron has been falling on his face? Truth is Ted has been great for years because he had a great QB. The team is very mediocre (poor actually) with no Aaron or an under performing Aaron. Ted got lucky in his first draft. Other than that he hasn't shown much sign of being a world stopper as GM. I would accept that he is average but nothing more than that. Not without Rodgers. That doesn't mean there are not a lot of poor GMs.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Most GMs and coaches will look pretty average without a good or better QB. Very few succeed without one.
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8 years ago

Most GMs and coaches will look pretty average without a good or better QB. Very few succeed without one.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



So then you agree that Ted and Mike are average at best.
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