hardrocker950
8 years ago
If picking late in the draft is the reason for the decline, then explain the Patriots. Their success is not based on just their draft - they do what Ted should do, and that is SIGN SOME PROVEN TALENT AND FILL THE FUCKING HOLES IN THE ROSTER!

Injuries play their part - but that could have been minimized had Ted gone out and made a deal or two so we had at least someone at CB with some experience. I had hope when he made a deal for Knile, but then went back to sitting on his hands and watching it all burn to the ground.

Does anyone seriously think we can't find a better GM?
nerdmann
8 years ago

One extra play in Colts and Atl games and we win.

and one ST TD and pic 6 [like Minnesota needed to beat a bad Ariz team] in Wash game and GB is 3 and 1 instead of 0-4 in last 4 games.

Now the rosters, talent and players are all the exact same in both scenarios. Regardless of being 3-1 under the alternate scenario, the team played like crap. But because we lost 4 Ted is a poor drafter; and if we won 3 of 4, Ted would be a genius.

There's way too much uffda-like wilda$$ irrational emotion. Dont look at stats, dont look at Ws and Ls...WATCH THE GAMES. Last year before Denver game Uffda said we'd go undefeated; now he says we wont win another. The GB media is a bunch of stooges, search their articles for the facts and question those to be sure there's no McSpinn-like objective; but for god sake dont absorb their idiotic opinions.

I'm still laughing about the WRs cant get open stoogery..šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



All true but the starting QB needs to throw to the open guy, accurately. And get the ball out in under 8 seconds.
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Barfarn
8 years ago

If picking late in the draft is the reason for the decline, then explain the Patriots. Their success is not based on just their draft - they do what Ted should do, and that is SIGN SOME PROVEN TALENT AND FILL THE FUCKING HOLES IN THE ROSTER!

Injuries play their part - but that could have been minimized had Ted gone out and made a deal or two so we had at least someone at CB with some experience. I had hope when he made a deal for Knile, but then went back to sitting on his hands and watching it all burn to the ground.

Does anyone seriously think we can't find a better GM?

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



Started out good; then you crashed and burned: The draft theory is seductive; but reality proves it ultimately WRONG. As Hardrock says, if that theory were correct, Jax and Detroit would be juggernauts; NE and GB also rans.

But, there is no better GM, because he gets it. Look at all the FA acquisitions Detroit and Jax have had. See that dont work either. Only difference between NE and GB is QB play; cant hold a GM and HC responsible for a great Qb suddenly changing and deciding he's so KING CRAP he can crap on his family and the staff, his teammates and the system.

The reason for the drop off due to injuries is not talent or more FAs; IT IS PRACTICE TIME. There isn’t enough practice time for the starters; let alone getting back-ups ready and forget the back-ups of back-ups. There should be something like one hour a day of extra practice for back-up players with less than 4 years experience.
Porforis
8 years ago

If picking late in the draft is the reason for the decline, then explain the Patriots. Their success is not based on just their draft - they do what Ted should do, and that is SIGN SOME PROVEN TALENT AND FILL THE FUCKING HOLES IN THE ROSTER!

Injuries play their part - but that could have been minimized had Ted gone out and made a deal or two so we had at least someone at CB with some experience. I had hope when he made a deal for Knile, but then went back to sitting on his hands and watching it all burn to the ground.

Does anyone seriously think we can't find a better GM?

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



And what makes you think when we drop 10-15mil on a high end CB that he won't get injured like all our other ones?
steveishere
8 years ago
I don't think I'd blame drafting for what we're seeing. I think the biggest problem is we are getting very little from several guys with very large contracts and our depth for injuries is Undrafted guys and rookies. We could do for some medium ranged priced free agents I think where the young guys on the roster actually have some competition but if they step up and make the spot there is good experiences depth. I think our roster is getting a little too top heavy where it's devastating when a couple of those guys go down.
yooperfan
8 years ago

And what makes you think when we drop 10-15mil on a high end CB that he won't get injured like all our other ones?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 


Why do anti free agency people always go straight to the top of the pay scale when talking about FA signing?
That's not the only option.

beast
8 years ago

If picking late in the draft is the reason for the decline, then explain the Patriots. Their success is not based on just their draft - they do what Ted should do, and that is SIGN SOME PROVEN TALENT AND FILL THE FUCKING HOLES IN THE ROSTER!

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 


The Patriots have the best coach in the NFL and are a lot more disciple...

But I think you're mistaken about the Patriots... the Patriots sign guys cheaply... both proven AND unproven... and then adjust their systems to the talent of their players. It's rare that the Patriots go out and sign a proven talent for market value.

Does anyone seriously think we can't find a better GM?

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



I believe all positions have the potential be upgraded... but I think it'd be harder than you seem to be suggesting to find a better GM. A lot of teams have tried very hard to find the best GM possible... and most have delivered worse results than Thompson. And that's with Thompson picking lower than most.

I seriously and strongly believe picking the right GM is a lot tougher than people think... why? Because so many people have completely failed at doing it. So it much be tougher than people think.
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steveishere
8 years ago

And what makes you think when we drop 10-15mil on a high end CB that he won't get injured like all our other ones?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Could always just drop about 5 mil a year on a guy like Hayward
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Could always just drop about 5 mil a year on a guy like Hayward

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



and ignore that you have Sam Shields, Damarious Randall (1st round 2015) and Quinten Rollins (2nd round 2015) on the roster? The secondary was a spot we (and this goes to a LOT you folks) thought was going to be the strength of the defense. The funny thing about injuries, you can't predict you are going to get depleted a position and math says you can't load up on every single position.

If we had matched the 3 year $15,300,000 contract, I wouldn't have been upset, but I know many fans would have bemoaned the whole Sam Shields, D. Randal and Q. Rollins AND investing into a CB who had hamstring issues and didn't show he could play anything other than the slot.

Besides, it won't matter until we have a defensive coordinator that adapts scheme to players, instead of players to scheme, it won't matter if we have 11 first round draft picks on defense.
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Barfarn
8 years ago

and ignore that you have Sam Shields, Damarious Randall (1st round 2015) and Quinten Rollins (2nd round 2015) on the roster? The secondary was a spot we (and this goes to a LOT you folks) thought was going to be the strength of the defense. The funny thing about injuries, you can't predict you are going to get depleted a position and math says you can't load up on every single position.

If we had matched the 3 year $15,300,000 contract, I wouldn't have been upset, but I know many fans would have bemoaned the whole Sam Shields, D. Randal and Q. Rollins AND investing into a CB who had hamstring issues and didn't show he could play anything other than the slot.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Its hindsight for us and foresight for staff; but dont forget that now we know how good Gunter, Hyde and Goodson were as CB's # 4, 5 and 6. Was there a better #4 CB in the league than Gunter, a better #6 than Goodson, I doubt it.
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