Jeff Janis buried on Packers depth chart· Real Page 2

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Same. I don't normally call people names on the internet, but something about how Mike Florio stands there and pretends to be an insider bugs me...

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

His website is based on the shtick of being a sarcastic, snarky, arm chair QB. He reminds me of this guy from A Christmas Story. He sure acts tough, but he's just an obnoxious twerp.

sschind
Senior Member

9 years ago

#12

It seems that Janis only real hope of sticking around is his ST skills. As soon as a guy who can contribute more on the offense or defense steps up to be his equal on ST he will be gone.

Gotta thank Buckeye though, it had been at least a week since I heard the "7th round pick from a small school" excuse. I though it might have finally died out. Its like the 12 year veteran announcing what college he went to on MNF, pretty close to irrelevant by now.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#13

You can thank me for reminding you that EVERY player drafted by The Packers isn't going to be a frickin' superstar when he walks on the field at Lambeau.

How long before some of you call Trevor Davis or one of the other late round draft picks a bust because he hasn't been able to get on the field due to better play from veterans?

I'm betting some of you won't give them till the end of the preseason.

Another year same old whining bullshit

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I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#14

He's not a lock.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Nope, Janis is still a lock!

Maybe not for WR reasons but for ST reason, Janis is still a lock!
If Jarrett Bush can last 9 years solely as a ST gunner, then Janis (who's better at it) can last at least 3 years doing it.
And yes, other players can fill the ST gunner role... but they can't do it at same level as Janis can.
So I still think Janis is a lock.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: beast

There was never much of a log jam at Bush's position.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#16

There was never much of a log jam at Bush's position.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

It seems like every year fans worry about a log jam at WR... and it seems like the log jam is always over rated in fans minds. Fans always seem to talk about how the last Packers WR cut will be claimed ASAP... and they haven't been...

Is the log jam of Nelson and Cobb, really more impressive than the log jam of Charles Woodson, Al Harris and Tramon Williams? I might say the CBs are more impressive on that one.

Yes there are other WRs, but have they stepped up and proven enough to be considered logs? I feel like if I add them to Nelson and Cobb, that would just hurt their case against the CBs, because all of the CBs have proven to be starter worthy, while none of the other WRs have.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#17

It seems that Janis only real hope of sticking around is his ST skills. As soon as a guy who can contribute more on the offense or defense steps up to be his equal on ST he will be gone.

Originally Posted by: sschind

That's what they always said about Jarret Bush... but gunner on STs seems to be a lot harder than people think... and player after player after player failed to match up to Bush on STs. Because you have to be physical to beat the jam and then speed and tackling once you get down there.

And Janis was MUCH better than Bush... Janis' breakout is the main reason that Tim Masthay destroyed his net punting yard average record by beating it by an average of 1.2 yards (which doesn't sound like a lot, but that HUGE!) and not only that, but Masthay also destroyed the Packers net punting yard average record which was set in 1963 by an average of 1.0 yards.

This doesn't make much news, because even that was still 14th best last season... as most other punters don't have to deal with GB weather. Heck 4 of the top 5 punters (in net punting yardage) last year have a dome at home games.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#18

Bush stuck with the team not only because was our best gunner, but also because he could play both CB and S. So they could fill 2-3 spots deep on the depth chart with one body. If Janis can't hold the #6 spot on the depth at WR not sure just being a gunner will keep him around.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: beast

True, but the most overrated of them all is Janis himself. 🤣

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

isocleas2
Member

9 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

This.

Bush still is the whipping boy around here at times but the Packers staff loved him for his versatility, he stuck around because he was serviceable at multiple roles and excelled at one (gunner).

Also although the Packers did have Harris, Tramon, and Woodson ahead of Bush there really weren't many draft picks invested into CB/S to replace him. Bush mostly beat out undrafted FAs and late round picks like Brandon Underwood, and got lucky when a few higher round picks busted (Pat Lee, McMillian).

The WR position is different imo because the Packers have 7 draft picks invested into the position, with no one expected to retire the next couple seasons it appears this logjam was by design.

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