yooperfan
9 years ago

Porforis, I'm not going to repeat everything I just said in another thread. But I do want to repeat one thing:

There is a difference about pointing out one or two (or even one or two years) of non-acquisitions (the kind of criticism to which your response is on point) and pointing out a sustained period of time of insufficient performance by the GM (where they are not). IMO, uffda's and Dakota's criticisms of Thompson have been primarily of the latter sort.

My primary criticism of Ted, and I think theirs, has never really been "Ted didn't make (or made) this one or two or five acquisitions/draft picks that I thought he should have made (or not have made)." My primary criticism, and theirs, has been that Ted has been GM for a decade and that tenure has been marked by several cases where there has been insufficient improvement over several years running. OL to name one. ILB to name another. Indeed the middle of the field on defense at all levels (NT, ILB, S). And, apropos of this thread in particular, TE.

That kind of thing is what makes Ted just an average-to-okay GM to my mind. I'm not ready to have him be fired quite yet, because for some reason, despite his track record over a decade, I still think he iis *capable of* greatness, and because I don't know anyone who might be available who is. But until he finds a way improve areas of the team that need improvement but without regularly taking a half decade to do so, I'm going to continue to bitch, criticize, and mouth off.

Sorry. 😁

Originally Posted by: Wade 


A thousand applause points for you young fella.

DoddPower
9 years ago
I think Owen Daniels would have been a decent stop-gap solution, and that's not hindsight. I think he ultimately signed for more than I thought he would, so it's understandable why it didn't work out. But regardless, I think he would have helped the Packers offense last season, and likely this upcoming season. I thought/think the same thing about Vernon Davis. It just seemed like a risk worth taking. It probably wouldn't have been enough to make much difference in the playoffs though. But just based on what I see in the games from Richard Rodgers and even Quarless, that would simply not be good enough for me if I were a GM. I would want my QB to have more of a safety blanket, especially after Jordy went down, which is why Vernon Davis made some sense.
Barfarn
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9 years ago
Okay Colts just signed TE Allen at 4 Yrs/29.4M 16M Guaranteed. He's no more athletic than Rodgers; though a better blocker and not quite the route runner. He's not as big; not as durable; not as good at Goal line; had more drops and fumbled more than Rodgers. When he had a good QB he averaged about 12.4 YPC; but last year with pretty bad QBing, the "slow poke" averaged only 6.8 YPC.

Allen has pretty much plateaued, Rodgers still has decent upside.

Rodgers is not Gronk; but he is going to get paid because he is not a weakness.
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