yooperfan
8 years ago

Porforis, I'm not going to repeat everything I just said in another thread. But I do want to repeat one thing:

There is a difference about pointing out one or two (or even one or two years) of non-acquisitions (the kind of criticism to which your response is on point) and pointing out a sustained period of time of insufficient performance by the GM (where they are not). IMO, uffda's and Dakota's criticisms of Thompson have been primarily of the latter sort.

My primary criticism of Ted, and I think theirs, has never really been "Ted didn't make (or made) this one or two or five acquisitions/draft picks that I thought he should have made (or not have made)." My primary criticism, and theirs, has been that Ted has been GM for a decade and that tenure has been marked by several cases where there has been insufficient improvement over several years running. OL to name one. ILB to name another. Indeed the middle of the field on defense at all levels (NT, ILB, S). And, apropos of this thread in particular, TE.

That kind of thing is what makes Ted just an average-to-okay GM to my mind. I'm not ready to have him be fired quite yet, because for some reason, despite his track record over a decade, I still think he iis *capable of* greatness, and because I don't know anyone who might be available who is. But until he finds a way improve areas of the team that need improvement but without regularly taking a half decade to do so, I'm going to continue to bitch, criticize, and mouth off.

Sorry. 😁

Originally Posted by: Wade 


A thousand applause points for you young fella.

DoddPower
8 years ago
I think Owen Daniels would have been a decent stop-gap solution, and that's not hindsight. I think he ultimately signed for more than I thought he would, so it's understandable why it didn't work out. But regardless, I think he would have helped the Packers offense last season, and likely this upcoming season. I thought/think the same thing about Vernon Davis. It just seemed like a risk worth taking. It probably wouldn't have been enough to make much difference in the playoffs though. But just based on what I see in the games from Richard Rodgers and even Quarless, that would simply not be good enough for me if I were a GM. I would want my QB to have more of a safety blanket, especially after Jordy went down, which is why Vernon Davis made some sense.
Barfarn
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8 years ago
Okay Colts just signed TE Allen at 4 Yrs/29.4M 16M Guaranteed. He's no more athletic than Rodgers; though a better blocker and not quite the route runner. He's not as big; not as durable; not as good at Goal line; had more drops and fumbled more than Rodgers. When he had a good QB he averaged about 12.4 YPC; but last year with pretty bad QBing, the "slow poke" averaged only 6.8 YPC.

Allen has pretty much plateaued, Rodgers still has decent upside.

Rodgers is not Gronk; but he is going to get paid because he is not a weakness.
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
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Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
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