Nelson Injury Pool· Page 2

Barfarn
Senior Member

9 years ago

How would we have any form of "leverage"? If we start calling around about needing a WR is some other GM not going to think Nelson is done? There's no way we even make a call unless Jordy is significantly injured to where he's at least IR'ed and miss 10 games.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Leverage is a relative, not an absolute term.

But first you gotta realize, a GM that feels he has a trade-able WR they want gone or wont make the 53 will often call a team, when hearing a WR is hurt.

Now if it's Ted Thompson that makes the call, and obviously everyone knows Jordy's hurt, missing a chunk of the season [IR-D Return or just sitting on the roster] and IR-DONE, places GB on 2 distinct levels of desperation [which is also a relative term], which creates 2 distinct leverage points for negotiations. And the former provides more leverage than the later.

1265 owes no duty of explanation of the subject injury ever to fans. However they must identify whether he is Out, Probable, Questionable, etc for Games 1, 2 ... and/or 19.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

That's some spin at best. We have no leverage despite the situation. In either case Nelson is gone for a significant portion of the season and IR designated for return is no guarantee he comes back or comes back and is close to 100%. No opposing GM is going to offer more despite Jordy's situation.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#13

Really, they don't owe us any information even then - not anytime.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Yeah, they do. There are disclosure rules in the NFL, which were specifically designed to prevent illegal gambling. When teams lie about injuries, it breaks these rules and give mafia people who have inside knowledge an edge in gambling.

Teams are required to disclose accurate information regarding injuries.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#14

Yeah, they do. There are disclosure rules in the NFL, which were specifically designed to prevent illegal gambling. When teams lie about injuries, it breaks these rules and give mafia people who have inside knowledge an edge in gambling.

Teams are required to disclose accurate information regarding injuries.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

So based on your reactions I'm assuming this team has been punished often for not following these rules?

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#15

So based on your reactions I'm assuming this team has been punished often for not following these rules?

Originally Posted by: steveishere

New England has. Shocking.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#16

So based on your reactions I'm assuming this team has been punished often for not following these rules?

Originally Posted by: steveishere

No, neither have the Patriots. This goes to the credibility of the Commissioner and, along with him, the league.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#17

No, neither have the Patriots. This goes to the credibility of the Commissioner and, along with him, the league.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Actually, the NFL cleared them...I thought they'd been fined...nope. Just investigated based on Talib and Spikes coming out publicly against them and their injury report practices.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#18

So based on your reactions I'm assuming this team has been punished often for not following these rules?

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I think the Jets were punished for not disclosing Brett Favre's injury.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d812ace33/article/nfl-fines-jets-mangini-125k-total-for-breaking-injury-report-rules

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#19

No, neither have the Patriots. This goes to the credibility of the Commissioner and, along with him, the league.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

So if aren't going to get punished yet they do what you keep whining for them to do it puts them at a competitive disadvantage vs the rest of the NFL. That would be incredibly dumb of them.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#20

So if aren't going to get punished yet they do what you keep whining for them to do it puts them at a competitive disadvantage vs the rest of the NFL. That would be incredibly dumb of them.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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