nerdmann
9 years ago

It seems to be a running joke among football fans (Packers's fans are no exception) that the goal for any team during that No Man's Land between minicamp and training camp in July is simple: don't get arrested. Sure, the Lions seemed to always lead the charge with a parade of bad decisions that end

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I think we'll be fine, unless the trend continues.

The fact that we haven't heard anything on Guion yet gives me a sense of forboding.
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TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago
No fingers lost at least. 😊
beast
9 years ago
I don't think "potential suspensions" hurt anyone... it's the actual suspensions (and fines) that hurt...


The only questions I have is what will the punishments be when they come?, and will they effect the practices at all?

I remember when Mike Neal got his suspension, that basically put him on the back burner in practices as they tried to get other guys ready... will they do the same with Jones, Guion and Quarless? ... it's a bit tougher as the DL would now be losing two and sounds like the other TEs are clearly behind Quarless other than maybe Rodgers.

Also if both Jones and Guion are suspended, then who becomes the 3rd starter in base package? Boyd? And I wonder if we might see some creative package made for that Bears game with less DL. In past years I've heard some fans make the argument for a 2-5 package and that could be pretty interesting this year too at least in theory.

DL: Daniels, Raji
LB: Peppers, Neal, Barrington, Matthews, Perry

Best pass rushers on the field, and most of them aren't too bad against the run either. Also could be a nickel package like that, but minus Neal or Perry and add Hyde or Richardson
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I don't think "potential suspensions" hurt anyone... it's the actual suspensions (and fines) that hurt...


The only questions I have is what will the punishments be when they come?, and will they effect the practices at all?

I remember when Mike Neal got his suspension, that basically put him on the back burner in practices as they tried to get other guys ready... will they do the same with Jones, Guion and Quarless? ... it's a bit tougher as the DL would now be losing two and sounds like the other TEs are clearly behind Quarless other than maybe Rodgers.

Also if both Jones and Guion are suspended, then who becomes the 3rd starter in base package? Boyd? And I wonder if we might see some creative package made for that Bears game with less DL. In past years I've heard some fans make the argument for a 2-5 package and that could be pretty interesting this year too at least in theory.

DL: Daniels, Raji
LB: Peppers, Neal, Barrington, Matthews, Perry

Best pass rushers on the field, and most of them aren't too bad against the run either. Also could be a nickel package like that, but minus Neal or Perry and add Hyde or Richardson

Originally Posted by: beast 



Neal and Perry are tweeners. Arguably they could play end. Wasn't it Lang who filled in on D in the past? Short yardage situations?
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steveishere
9 years ago
Boyd was already starting last year in the base defense so if Guion is suspended all that's really happening there is Guion is subbing out for Raji which was likely happening anyways. Datone is only out for 1 game so his really doesn't matter. I don't see Guion getting anything more than 4 so even that isn't too much.
DoddPower
9 years ago

Boyd was already starting last year in the base defense so if Guion is suspended all that's really happening there is Guion is subbing out for Raji which was likely happening anyways. Datone is only out for 1 game so his really doesn't matter. I don't see Guion getting anything more than 4 so even that isn't too much.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Yeah, the one game suspension of Datone Jones will have a very minimal impact. The Guion and Quarless suspensions will have an impact, but it won't be anything substantial. Both are average players, at best. Hopefully Guion is only suspended for a few games, which will greatly minimize that impact. Quarless might be gone for a while, but the Packers will be fine without him. Next man up. Maybe he will be able to come back late in the season healthy for a playoff push? Because the Packers will be in the playoffs.
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