Zero2Cool
9 years ago
I've tried explaining this and you folks don't believe me, maybe you'll trust him lol.

Most football fans know that NFL teams suit up 46 players on game day while a club carries 53 players on its active roster. Many have asked why have extra players that can’t be used. After all, there is a 10-man practice squad as well.

Some have suggested that all 53 players be allowed to dress and play. On the surface, limiting players to 46 seems capricious, but there is actually logic to the rule.

In order to understand the reasoning, one must first understand the NFL rules for injured reserve. Unlike other leagues, injured reserve is essentially a one-way street from which there is no return. For example in baseball, there is a 15 and 60 day disabled list, which amounts to temporary and reversible injured reserve. In 2012, the NFL allowed one player on injured reserve to be “designated for return” after a minimum of eight weeks.

In order to qualify for injured reserve, an active roster player must be considered to suffer a significant injury lasting at least six weeks. In other words, a player with a mild ankle sprain does not qualify for injured reserve. Minor injuries are expected to be carried on the active roster. Along with strategic decisions, that is the reason for not allowing all players to suit up for games.

As the season starts, the term physically unable to perform (PUP) will be used. PUP is used for players that begin the season injured and can’t pass a physical. It gives players time to get healthy while allowing teams to use the roster spot. If placed on PUP, a player may not return until week six. If they are not activated by week 12, then they need to be moved to injured reserve.

Some have called for all players to be active on Sunday. On the surface, this seems to be a good idea. After all, all 53 are being paid and count against the salary cap. A new rule allowing all to play would push teams to place injured athletes to injured reserve instead of carrying them on the active roster in order to avoid being at a disadvantage. A club with a number of injured players could be playing shorthanded compared to a healthy team.

In 2012, the new category of IR-designated to return began. After the season starts, each team can name one player that potentially could be brought back off of IR after week eight. The idea is if a player suffers a serious injury early in the season, he could still return if he can get healthy and a team could utilize the roster spot in the meantime.

My understanding is that in the past, teams would stockpile players by placing them on injured reserve. It is a given that football produces injuries. One main reason for a 53-man roster but only suiting up 46 is to allow for injuries. If there really is a change to allow all players to suit up, the NFL would have to create better short term IR options

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dfosterf
9 years ago
Pay 100 men to play the game. Take it to 50 for active roster. All 100 are eligible to play on any given Sunday. I think the teams and NFL could afford it. Do you? The previous rules cited are for the owners to minimize payroll. They should be ashamed of themselves. The NFL is a money making machine, and with increased flexibility, they could put a better "product" on the field in case of injuries.
QCHuskerFan
9 years ago

Pay 100 men to play the game. Take it to 50 for active roster. All 100 are eligible to play on any given Sunday. I think the teams and NFL could afford it. Do you? The previous rules cited are for the owners to minimize payroll. They should be ashamed of themselves. The NFL is a money making machine, and with increased flexibility, they could put a better "product" on the field in case of injuries.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



If a business owner should be ashamed for maximizing profits, welfare recipients should wear signs stating they are lazy losers.
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dfosterf
9 years ago
Windows 8 is complete shit.

I hear you on the business owner thing. I am personally quite tight with GBP money. I think the NFL has to be viewed as an exception for my personal conservative views. I want the best product that can be delivered on that field. The limitations are the best football players on earth, not money, unless we defer to the 31 owners plus us. I honestly think the game would be better with a 100 guys on a roster.

I also think the owners would see a net plus if they did it. GM's constantly screw up who those best players are, as they are under our existing player number limitations, per our system in place.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Pay 100 men to play the game. Take it to 50 for active roster. All 100 are eligible to play on any given Sunday. I think the teams and NFL could afford it. Do you? The previous rules cited are for the owners to minimize payroll. They should be ashamed of themselves. The NFL is a money making machine, and with increased flexibility, they could put a better "product" on the field in case of injuries.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



The current 53 roster with suiting 46 is just fine. The problem is people do not understand the reasoning behind it, nor do many care to dig it up to learn.
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dfosterf
9 years ago

The current 53 roster with suiting 46 is just fine. The problem is people do not understand the reasoning behind it, nor do many care to dig it up to learn.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Alternatively, some very passionate fans do know the reasoning behind it, have reasoned it through, and think there is a better answer. There is that possibility.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Alternatively, some very passionate fans do know the reasoning behind it, have reasoned it through, and think there is a better answer. There is that possibility.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Nah, I doubt that. 😁

It's not really broken so I don't see why it needs fixing. Why problem are you proposing to fix?
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dfosterf
9 years ago

Nah, I doubt that. 😁

It's not really broken so I don't see why it needs fixing. Why problem are you proposing to fix?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'm not proposing much. It's a "food for thought" thing. Sam Shields made our team by a fine red pubic hair. There are so many that do not get a real chance, mostly due to the extreme time-line pressures placed upon the teams as regards personnel decisions. I think that could be liberalized. I don't like watching my chances go down the tubes because we ran out of football players due to injury. Mostly stream of thought, no big deal.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I'm not proposing much. It's a "food for thought" thing. Sam Shields made our team by a fine red pubic hair. There are so many that do not get a real chance, mostly due to the extreme time-line pressures placed upon the teams as regards personnel decisions. I think that could be liberalized. I don't like watching my chances go down the tubes because we ran out of football players due to injury. Mostly stream of thought, no big deal.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



I think if teams are able to horde more players on the roster, the NFL will be top heavy and boring. I do think they expanded the practice squad rules a bit which would help with what you're referring to. I think anyhow.


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