DarkaneRules
9 years ago
Yes, Hayward has shown flashes and was able to be kept cheaper than House. The coaches were able to see what he could do all of last year, and now it is time for him to get his starting job back. I am convinced he will, but until that time, no contract extension.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
ProFootballFocus has these ratings for both of them.

2014
Hayward 9th
House 43rd

2013
Hayward didn't play 25% of snaps, no rating
House 69th

2012
Hayward 4th
House didn't play 25% of snaps, no rating



Those ratings remove the "I want what I can't have" mentality that some have with players who signed elsewhere and focuses on what was actually done on the field.



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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Would all depend on the value of said extension. IMO, Hayward has yet to prove himself as a starting CB, so at this point I would not want to see him extended. The way it is looking, we should have plenty of cap space to sign him later this year if he proves himself over the first 1/2 of the season.
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steveishere
9 years ago
If they can extend him at this point then yeah I'd probably be for it as long as his hamstring checks out. He's proven he can at the very least play at a very high level as a slot CB so as a player he's not going to bust if you give him an extension. Looking at the contracts that were given out to CBs this year if he makes it through the whole season as a starter and hits FA it's going to be VERY hard to re sign him. I'd rather take the risk now knowing that even if you end up over paying him a bit you still have a good player on your hands.

That being said I don't have access to his medical information obviously and his health (hamstrings) are easily the biggest complication.
nerdmann
9 years ago

If they can extend him at this point then yeah I'd probably be for it as long as his hamstring checks out. He's proven he can at the very least play at a very high level as a slot CB so as a player he's not going to bust if you give him an extension. Looking at the contracts that were given out to CBs this year if he makes it through the whole season as a starter and hits FA it's going to be VERY hard to re sign him. I'd rather take the risk now knowing that even if you end up over paying him a bit you still have a good player on your hands.

That being said I don't have access to his medical information obviously and his health (hamstrings) are easily the biggest complication.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



That's a good point.

Maybe some incentives for stretching/yoga/attending workouts and more incentives for staying healthy.
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