steveishere
9 years ago

Here-in lies the problem. If he doesn't trade is it because he didn't want to or because he couldn't find anyone to pay his price? As fans, we'll probably never know and any seemingly unworthy player picked will be labeled a reach for his entire career.

Originally Posted by: Poppa San 



That won't stop us from acting like we know
Wade
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9 years ago
I was playing around on first-pick.com, wanting to see what it would take to get Leonard Williams.

Cost to trade up from #30 to #5 was:
4th #30
6th #30
7th #30
Next year's first rounder.

Not saying this trade would be available (my guess is the above wouldn't be near enough to trade that high). But if it was, would you make it.

FWIW, in the game I followed the pick by trading down from the Packers 2nd round pick #30 multiple times to get a total of one extra late third and three picks spread across the fourth round.
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Smokey
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9 years ago
Is it just me, or do the Packers seem not to be worried about building a Defense to be FEARED ? I know that they are in a giant poker game and the winners get the best players. I just want the Packers to win .
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Grabacr
9 years ago

Is it just me, or do the Packers seem not to be worried about building a Defense to be FEARED ? I know that they are in a giant poker game and the winners get the best players. I just want the Packers to win .

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Dont think its been a case of building a scary defense. Ive always seen it as a "Bend and dont Break" Defense. With ideally the offense putting up 30+ in the first half and have the "average" defense there just to look for turnovers. I dont believe the Packers will ever be a truly balanced team while Aaron is hitting his prime.


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Smokey
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9 years ago
Bend , but don't break is not a Defense , it is a surrender . For some teams , putting constant pressure on their QB is the only way to stop them . An ILB has to stop the run and cover against the pass . The Corner Back needs to be fast , smart , and be of sufficient height to to be of use against the taller faster receivers that many teams are recruiting . :magnifygl
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OlHoss1884
9 years ago
I say wait to see who is dropping. If what he is looking for is still there later, why give up picks to move up? But if someone outstanding is dropping then it's worth it. It will all kind of depend on whether there is a run on a certain position and who that leaves out there.

If Shelton drops into the teens, I say go get him, but if they are thinking ILB there are a couple to be available when we draft.


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Smokey
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9 years ago
Well the void at NT seems to be filled. Therefor the Packers would logically be looking at CB's and ILB's . Ted Thompson will be throwing out smoke screens and not promoting players that he likes . Therefor if Packers.com profiles a player , it is a Ted Thompson smoke screen .


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9 years ago
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9 years ago
With 9 draft picks / 7 of them trade-able, Would you trade Draft picks and why ?
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