texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
I guess I'll give it my stamp of approval. I woulda kept Stoneburner, but it's hard to say in place of who. Rolle was not overly impressive in the two games I saw. I agree, Goodson undoubtedly has more upside. I exactly agree with the numbers in each position group, which is actually as important or more than the players named.
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beast
10 years ago

I woulda kept Stoneburner

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Well he's on the IR... so I assume he's injured? and the Packers did keep him (at least so far) because he's still with the team.
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greengold
10 years ago

So, what is the point of pointing out Rolle has been cut?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


I was responding to:

Those who would say draft status doesn't matter should consider we kept Carl Bradford and Demetri Goodson. Are you kidding me? ... We kept all 9 draftees.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


As if the draft class got a free ride over the undrafted guys. But 4 undrafted guys from this class is a sizable number.

I also got the distinct impression you wanted Rolle over Goodson. Maybe there is a reason Rolle went undrafted and now has been cut by 3 teams, maybe not. If not, and they like both players, then maybe the fact he has cleared waivers twice already makes it more likely the Packers can stash him on the practice squad than Goodson? I dunno. I don't think you do either.

They are also running a business, and all else being equal, it is cheaper against the cap to cut an undrafted guy than a draft pick. I know that should not be the only factor, but remember neither Goodson or Rolle has ever played in a real NFL game, and we don't know everything the coaches have seen regarding upside potential.

Dexter_Sinister
10 years ago

I was responding to:

As if the draft class got a free ride over the undrafted guys. But 4 undrafted guys from this class is a sizable number.

I also got the distinct impression you wanted Rolle over Goodson. Maybe there is a reason Rolle went undrafted and now has been cut by 3 teams, maybe not. If not, and they like both players, then maybe the fact he has cleared waivers twice already makes it more likely the Packers can stash him on the practice squad than Goodson? I dunno. I don't think you do either.

They are also running a business, and all else being equal, it is cheaper against the cap to cut an undrafted guy than a draft pick. I know that should not be the only factor, but remember neither Goodson or Rolle has ever played in a real NFL game, and we don't know everything the coaches have seen regarding upside potential.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



Goodson is also still here because of his physical abilities. He is pretty raw, but he is very athletic.

They have to worry about the future of the team as well as the present.

That is the develop part of the draft and develop.
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buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

Well he's on the IR... so I assume he's injured? and the Packers did keep him (at least so far) because he's still with the team.

Originally Posted by: beast 



The way Stoneburner was tweeting this afternoon, it sounded like The Packers had released him.

I got tired of waiting for the final cuts, just came back only to find out Stoneburner was put on IR???????

Not complaining, UDFA last year who was pushed onto the 53 man roster due to other injuries, he probably needed another year.

I guess Ted and Mike figured he was worth keeping around and Jake must have "pulled a muscle" while he was tweeting today.

That's the only real surprise, other than Goodson making the final 53 I see.

Awful young on the D-line, let's hope Mike Daniels keeps these guys fired up.

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nerdmann
10 years ago

Goodson is also still here because of his physical abilities. He is pretty raw, but he is very athletic.

They have to worry about the future of the team as well as the present.

That is the develop part of the draft and develop.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



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Gaycandybacon
10 years ago

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Awful young on the D-line, let's hope Mike Daniels keeps these guys fired up.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



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DakotaT
10 years ago
This defense is weak up the middle with or without Raji, and has been since Bishop got hurt. I really hope this Barrington kid can get on the field. Power running teams will eat them up, so when we play teams like that; it is very important to play with a lead.
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uffda udfa
10 years ago

This defense is weak up the middle with or without Raji, and has been since Bishop got hurt. I really hope this Barrington kid can get on the field. Power running teams will eat them up, so when we play teams like that; it is very important to play with a lead.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



This post could've been made for the last 3 seasons minus the Barrington part as he hasn't been here that long.

When your D is weak up the middle for 3 straight seasons and isn't fixed, even a little, that is very poor leadership from the top.

MM said we're about winning championships and that is always the goal... How can we believe that when our same glaring weakness is present again? My goodness how many more years is it going to be like this?
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beast
10 years ago

The way Stoneburner was tweeting this afternoon, it sounded like The Packers had released him.

I got tired of waiting for the final cuts, just came back only to find out Stoneburner was put on IR???????

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



In some ways being on IR might be worse in players minds... means your season is done (if you stay on IR), means you're injured and means you might have to work towards an injury settlement if they don't want to keep you on IR for the whole season.


Like I noticed today the RB Neal, ILB Thomas and OL Tiller were sent to IR during the 75 man cut downs... but on Packers.com I don't see them listed on the IR on the updated roster...

Maybe a mistake on Packers.com's part? Or maybe they got injury settlements and released like TE Lyerla?
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