nerdmann
11 years ago

He's already a hell of lot better run blocker than we've had at the position in a very long time. I figure Bulaga is back at RT this year and LT will come down to Bacteria beating out Sherrod. I seem to be one of the few around here that hasn't given up on the Big Boy with the ideal measurables.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Bacteria and Sherrod will both get the chance to compete for the position. They've already stated Bulaga's going back to RT.

Now I'd like to see them upgrade from EDS. EDS did great this year, exceeded my expectations. But I think Tretter can push him.
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warhawk
11 years ago

So based on that, it looks like we are stuck with Bakhtiari. I'm not exactly pleased about that, but maybe they see more in him in practice than he showed in games.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Your talking like the guy won't use last year as a stepping stone and is somehow stuck where he is talent wise. They say offensive linemen especially usually show big improvement year 2. Personally, I thought he did a good job considering he probably wouldn't have seen more than a minimal amount of snaps last season had Bulaga not gone down.
Like McCarthy said, he should come back into camp a little bigger, stronger, but most importantly much SMARTER now that he has seen everything defenses will come at him with.

As far as Bulaga goes how soon people forget. He was our best offensive lineman or no worse than second to Sitton. The injury he sustained, from what I recall, was one he was considering not having surgery done but ultimately opted to. The guy hasn't forgotten how to play football and would be an immediate upgrade to Barclay who fought hard but is nowhere near as talented as Bulaga.

Lastly, with Barclay and Sherrod in behind these guys I would say that is probably more talent then most teams have backing up starters. I will take Bakhitiari, Sitton, EDS, Lang, and Bulaga all day long especially since that group stays mostly intact with only an upgrade at RT.

I don't know why so many are down on the Oline anyhow. First it was the run blocking but I hadn't heard much about that lately. Next it's pass protection. Well, teams are coming after Rodgers. They have to or he will eat them alive. So yeah, there are pressure and sack stats but I wonder what percentage of the time are teams bringing extra pressure vs. teams without a QB like Arod? I'm sure the Vikings, without looking it up, had fewer sacks but then again teams didn't have to bring it to beat that team with a QB that sucks. A sack total doesn't tell the whole story.

The Oline had to be doing something right out there with Finley, Cobb, and Rodgers out for as long as they were and the offense to finish where it did. In fact thank God they played as well as they did or this last year would have been a complete disaster.











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DakotaT
11 years ago
I'm a lot more concerned our defensive line than offensive line. We have solid players throughout the O-line and the longer we keep this group in tact, the better they will get. Questions remain about LT and C and who's the future at both, but we have capable players in house and I expect very little change. That said, will EDS be resigned, and I would think yes.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
Normally, I like to be a positive person. I HOPE all these positive things about our O-Line come true, BUT ......

I just saw TOO MANY TIMES Aaron Rodgers have literally no time in the pocket - run for his life to make any kind of a play. I saw TOO MANY TIMES Eddie Lacy, as good as he is, in expected run situations, trapped in the backfield with no chance to even get started. And it seemed to me that Bakhtiari was to blame more than any other O-Lineman. Tackle was the weakness, but I didn't see that much brute strength or ability to move people even up the middle. Sorry, but I just don't buy it that we have a quality O-Line. Whatever good has happened can be attributed to our all world QB succeeding even without much help from his line, as well as the element of surprise in the running game - with the threat of Rodgers also responsible for most of that.
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beast
11 years ago

So based on that, it looks like we are stuck with Bakhtiari. I'm not exactly pleased about that, but maybe they see more in him in practice than he showed in games.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Are you ever pleased about last year? 👅

Normally, I like to be a positive person. I HOPE all these positive things about our O-Line come true, BUT ......

I just saw TOO MANY TIMES Aaron Rodgers have literally no time in the pocket - run for his life to make any kind of a play. I saw TOO MANY TIMES Eddie Lacy, as good as he is, in expected run situations, trapped in the backfield with no chance to even get started. And it seemed to me that Bakhtiari was to blame more than any other O-Lineman. Tackle was the weakness, but I didn't see that much brute strength or ability to move people even up the middle. Sorry, but I just don't buy it that we have a quality O-Line. Whatever good has happened can be attributed to our all world QB succeeding even without much help from his line, as well as the element of surprise in the running game - with the threat of Rodgers also responsible for most of that.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Well you seem to watch the flashy positions more than the non-flashy and OL is CLEARLY the flashiest as it gets along the OL.

Also I agree with you about Bakhtiari lack of brute strength and ability to move guys, but even Bakhtiari has said he's more of a finesse guy (before the year) which again isn't a flashy or exciting style which gets you to like player.

As for as Bakhtiari is most to blame,

1) He's playing LT so he's going against some of the best pass rushers on the other team

2) Did you not see Barclay and Newhouse play? Barclay was horrible at times with a back match-up for him, Newhouse was horrible about all the time.


Bakhtiari's play CLEARLY wasn't special... but he was a rookie. There were 8 rookie OTs picked before Bakhtiari, including 5 in the first round and 3 in the first four overall picks (according to wiki). But I can't say I know any of them did even as well as Bakhtiari did.

He's a rookie... rookies USUALLY grow and improve.

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beast
11 years ago

Bacteria and Sherrod will both get the chance to compete for the position. They've already stated Bulaga's going back to RT.

Now I'd like to see them upgrade from EDS. EDS did great this year, exceeded my expectations. But I think Tretter can push him.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Also I forgot MM's wording of it, but it sounded like he was implying the Packers were THINKING about giving Sherrod one side. Which didn't totally make sense but I think MM might of been saying instead of asking someone to be a swing OT and back-up both sides they might have Bakhtiari and Sherrod on Left side and Bulaga and Barclay on the right... at least for training camp. And they might work (some of) them as OG to their side as well.

So...

LT: Bakhtiari,Sherrod
LG: Sitton, Sherrod
OC: EDS?, Tretter
RG: Lang, Barclay
RT: Bulaga, Barclay

???

Maybe throw Taylor or Tretter at back-up LG instead of Sherrod if Sherrod isn't good there?
Maybe Lang at back-up Center if Tretter isn't ready yet.

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nerdmann
11 years ago

Also I forgot MM's wording of it, but it sounded like he was implying the Packers were THINKING about giving Sherrod one side. Which didn't totally make sense but I think Mike McCarthy might of been saying instead of asking someone to be a swing OT and back-up both sides they might have Bakhtiari and Sherrod on Left side and Bulaga and Barclay on the right... at least for training camp. And they might work (some of) them as OG to their side as well.

So...

LT: Bakhtiari,Sherrod
LG: Sitton, Sherrod
OC: EDS?, Tretter
RG: Lang, Barclay
RT: Bulaga, Barclay

???

Maybe throw Taylor or Tretter at back-up LG instead of Sherrod if Sherrod isn't good there?
Maybe Lang at back-up Center if Tretter isn't ready yet.

Originally Posted by: beast 



This team LOVES saving roster spots with versatile OL. But it costs them in the development of their Ts. Both Tretter and EDS should be able to play any interior position.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

Cardinals to cut Daryn Colledge 


Daryn Colledge, a guard who has started all 16 games in all three of his seasons in Arizona, is apparently about to be released.


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