Zero2Cool
16 years ago

The good news for the Green Bay Packers is rookie Jordy Nelson is outperforming the two wide receivers selected ahead of him in the draft. The bad news is, Nelson doesn't play defense, where the Packers could sorely use some reinforcements.

The issue isn't whether Nelson was worth taking with the Packers' top draft choice high in the second round (36th overall) in April.

The bigger question is whether General Manager Ted Thompson should have stayed put with the 30th overall pick in the first round and addressed some significant defensive needs.

Thompson has restocked the roster mostly through the draft since taking over in 2005, with a preferred method of trading down to accumulate picks.

But at some point, Thompson must stop trading back, especially high in the draft when impact players are available, and place more emphasis on immediate needs.

Thompson traded down from No. 30 to No. 36 and acquired an extra fourth-round choice from the New York Jets, which after more wheeling and dealing, turned out to be defensive end Jeremy Thompson.

In the long term, parlaying the No. 30 selection into Nelson and Jeremy Thompson might turn out just fine.

Of the first 10 receivers taken in the draft all in the second round Nelson ranks third in production with 10 catches for 116 yards and a touchdown serving mostly as the team's No. 4 wideout. Jeremy Thompson, who spent four games on the inactive list and only played last week because of Cullen Jenkins' season-ending injury, has a long way to go before he makes an impact.

In the short term, the Packers desperately could use help on defense. Injuries have decimated the depth chart, and the defense ranks near the bottom of the NFL.

Instead of trading out of the first round, Ted Thompson could have selected Clemson defensive end Phillip Merling, who is making waves with the Miami Dolphins. The 6-foot-4, 290-pound Merling is pushing veteran Vonnie Holiday for a starting spot and has recorded his first NFL sack on a team that ranks No. 7 in points and yards allowed. Considering the Packers' pressing needs on the defensive line, Merling would look pretty good in a green and gold uniform right about now.

The Packers' GM also could have drafted Virginia Tech cornerback Brandon Flowers, who became an immediate starter with the Chiefs and has 22 solo tackles and three passes defensed.

The Packers waited until the end of the second round to draft cornerback Pat Lee, who was inactive for the first three games, and like Jeremy Thompson, is a work in progress.

It's telling that just five of 20 Packers draft choices in the past two years have been devoted to defense, and there are no starters among them.

Maybe some of those young prospects will emerge into bona fide stars someday. In the meantime, the Packers' defense is suffering and starved for playmakers.


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Zero2Cool
16 years ago
The thing about this article that I don't really agree with is... he makes it sound like everyone KNEW that Brandon Flowers would start right away and that Phillip Merling was going to a force to reckon with.

it's a lot easier to look back at a draft say who should have been picked rather than actually doing the pick without knowing the future.


I do agree we gotta stop trading down. We have a solid core and now we need difference makers.
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
Dammit! I'm so mad damn mad at Thompson for not looking into his crystal ball before the draft! Damn Ted Thompson! I KNEW he should've looked into the future so he would've known that we'd have all these defensive injuries! Damn you Ted Thompson and damn your refusal to peer into the future to figure out that a lot of our defensive stars would get hurt this year which would've made you realize you shouldn't have drafted for the future!!! Damn not drafting for right now even though our guys were healthy before the draft!!!! Damn it Ted!
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Greg C.
16 years ago
bozz, I detect a hint of sarcasm in your post.

Yes, the article was kind of lame. How many of these 20-20 hindsight articles do we have to read every year? I was surprised, and yes, a little disappointed by Thompson's trade down out of the first round this year, but the jury is still out. The Nelson pick confused a lot of people because the Packers were deep at wide receiver, but with the injuries there, he has actually made a significant contribution. Meanwhile, Brandon Flowers probably would've been the dime back in our defense. He's starting for the Chiefs because the Chiefs suck. And they've only won one game.
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Bigbyfan
16 years ago
I actually wanted Brandon Flowers to be in the green and gold. He would have learned a lot from Harris. The guy is a little small, but plays press coverage well and can knock the $&*t outta people.

This being said, I have very little issues with the draft. However, we need to start drafting players who fill needs and can make an immediate impact early. We are in the position to start drafting this way because Ted Thompson has done a great job at adding depth to our team.

Nice article.
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gakko
16 years ago
I got one thing to say about all this, and you should all watch VERY closely:

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IronMan
16 years ago

I got one thing to say about all this, and you should all watch VERY closely:

[youtube]50LsvwmgJ7I[/youtube]

"gakko" wrote:


LOL that was awesome.
gakko
16 years ago
btw speaking of Bobby Knight, I think this is what we need in the lockerroom right now:
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16 years ago
Looking back at last year, who would of thought our defense would turn out like this?
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
The Amazing Mike Vandermause
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Mucky Tundra (8h) : Cowboys 1st round pick Tyler Booker will indeed be bringing his pet turtle to Dallas with him
Mucky Tundra (8h) : that contained all prospects info and contact
Mucky Tundra (8h) : beast, according the Falcons statement Jax came across it on an ipad. If I had to guess, probably an open spread sheet or something
Zero2Cool (8h) : Simmons put up an emoji with cheese.
beast (8h) : Not sure anyone is interested in Isaiah Simmons... Collin Oliver might of taken his potential slot
beast (9h) : I'm going with Jax Ulbrich is not telling the whole truth... he accidentally came across it? Why would a defensive coordinator have a QB #?
Zero2Cool (9h) : He's not that great, but final piece of the script.\
Zero2Cool (9h) : If we add Isaiah Simmons, book your Super Bowl tickets
Mucky Tundra (10h) : Colts 1st round TE Tyler Warren also got prank called, was that Jax Ulbrich as well?
Zero2Cool (10h) : Jax Ulbrich, Jeff Ulbrich’s son, released an apology for his role in the Shedeur Sanders prank call.
Martha Careful (10h) : apparently he did not participate in practice or play on the east west shrine game nor the NFL combine. The kid was a mediocre spoiled brat
Mucky Tundra (10h) : Yeah that one that was a super wounded duck that Sanders supporters are highlighting to prove a point
Zero2Cool (10h) : Shough is the guy who missed guys at combine isn't he?
beast (11h) : It's not official until I'm dead! I have a chance still! (Not really)
Mucky Tundra (20h) : I could feel my body decomposing in real time when I read that
Mucky Tundra (20h) : @MIKEYSAINRISTIL Tyler Shough will officially be the last person drafted to the NFL born in the 1900’s
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : saw the tweet, he meant the city
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : Was that for the team or the city?
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 3m Draft grade is in: Green Bay gets an A. The people, the city, the venue were all superb. NFL Draft’s next
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matt LaFleur says Jaire Alexander is participating in #Packers offseason program, which has been conducted virtually during this first week
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : ✅ ...
buckeyepackfan (26-Apr) : Check
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matthew Golden cahanged 81 to 22??
TheKanataThrilla (26-Apr) : Sam Howell to Vikings...guess no Aaron
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : 1 round 7 min, with one extra minute if there is a trade. 2nd round 4 minutes, 3rd -3, 2 thereafter IMO
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Agree
dfosterf (26-Apr) : Great idea imo
dfosterf (26-Apr) : 1st round to 7 minutes with one extension
dfosterf (26-Apr) : NFL comissioner wants to shorten the 2st
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : @jalenreagors They’re discussing if Sheduer can go back to college on NFL Network LMFAOOOOO
beast (26-Apr) : Great point Martha
beast (26-Apr) : Buddy Ryan used to say if a candy bar goes missing, there are two to blame, Rex and Rob 🤪 jk 😁
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Bum Phillips used to say there are two ways to get better. Get better players or get players to play better. We have a new DL coach
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Yes. Look at the losses last year. They can win.
beast (26-Apr) : Can Packers win with their current DL?
bboystyle (26-Apr) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 4rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes in the 4
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 7 minutes between picks in the 2nd round
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : Sorry to bitch, but the headline writers in that section absolutely mislead, or don't know how to read. It is maddening
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : No thanks. Not a dependable guy to be in the right place and run the right route. Dumb as a box of rocks.
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Pickens for Jaire may be interesting. Definitely not sure we want Pickens long term.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : No.Absolutely not
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : NO NO NO NO NO NO!!1 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
dhazer (25-Apr) : scenario: Our main prospects are off the board when our pick comes around, do we just throw a 2nd round pick at Pittsburgh for Pickens
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