Zero2Cool
16 years ago

The good news for the Green Bay Packers is rookie Jordy Nelson is outperforming the two wide receivers selected ahead of him in the draft. The bad news is, Nelson doesn't play defense, where the Packers could sorely use some reinforcements.

The issue isn't whether Nelson was worth taking with the Packers' top draft choice high in the second round (36th overall) in April.

The bigger question is whether General Manager Ted Thompson should have stayed put with the 30th overall pick in the first round and addressed some significant defensive needs.

Thompson has restocked the roster mostly through the draft since taking over in 2005, with a preferred method of trading down to accumulate picks.

But at some point, Thompson must stop trading back, especially high in the draft when impact players are available, and place more emphasis on immediate needs.

Thompson traded down from No. 30 to No. 36 and acquired an extra fourth-round choice from the New York Jets, which after more wheeling and dealing, turned out to be defensive end Jeremy Thompson.

In the long term, parlaying the No. 30 selection into Nelson and Jeremy Thompson might turn out just fine.

Of the first 10 receivers taken in the draft all in the second round Nelson ranks third in production with 10 catches for 116 yards and a touchdown serving mostly as the team's No. 4 wideout. Jeremy Thompson, who spent four games on the inactive list and only played last week because of Cullen Jenkins' season-ending injury, has a long way to go before he makes an impact.

In the short term, the Packers desperately could use help on defense. Injuries have decimated the depth chart, and the defense ranks near the bottom of the NFL.

Instead of trading out of the first round, Ted Thompson could have selected Clemson defensive end Phillip Merling, who is making waves with the Miami Dolphins. The 6-foot-4, 290-pound Merling is pushing veteran Vonnie Holiday for a starting spot and has recorded his first NFL sack on a team that ranks No. 7 in points and yards allowed. Considering the Packers' pressing needs on the defensive line, Merling would look pretty good in a green and gold uniform right about now.

The Packers' GM also could have drafted Virginia Tech cornerback Brandon Flowers, who became an immediate starter with the Chiefs and has 22 solo tackles and three passes defensed.

The Packers waited until the end of the second round to draft cornerback Pat Lee, who was inactive for the first three games, and like Jeremy Thompson, is a work in progress.

It's telling that just five of 20 Packers draft choices in the past two years have been devoted to defense, and there are no starters among them.

Maybe some of those young prospects will emerge into bona fide stars someday. In the meantime, the Packers' defense is suffering and starved for playmakers.


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Zero2Cool
16 years ago
The thing about this article that I don't really agree with is... he makes it sound like everyone KNEW that Brandon Flowers would start right away and that Phillip Merling was going to a force to reckon with.

it's a lot easier to look back at a draft say who should have been picked rather than actually doing the pick without knowing the future.


I do agree we gotta stop trading down. We have a solid core and now we need difference makers.
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
Dammit! I'm so mad damn mad at Thompson for not looking into his crystal ball before the draft! Damn Ted Thompson! I KNEW he should've looked into the future so he would've known that we'd have all these defensive injuries! Damn you Ted Thompson and damn your refusal to peer into the future to figure out that a lot of our defensive stars would get hurt this year which would've made you realize you shouldn't have drafted for the future!!! Damn not drafting for right now even though our guys were healthy before the draft!!!! Damn it Ted!
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Greg C.
16 years ago
bozz, I detect a hint of sarcasm in your post.

Yes, the article was kind of lame. How many of these 20-20 hindsight articles do we have to read every year? I was surprised, and yes, a little disappointed by Thompson's trade down out of the first round this year, but the jury is still out. The Nelson pick confused a lot of people because the Packers were deep at wide receiver, but with the injuries there, he has actually made a significant contribution. Meanwhile, Brandon Flowers probably would've been the dime back in our defense. He's starting for the Chiefs because the Chiefs suck. And they've only won one game.
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Bigbyfan
16 years ago
I actually wanted Brandon Flowers to be in the green and gold. He would have learned a lot from Harris. The guy is a little small, but plays press coverage well and can knock the $&*t outta people.

This being said, I have very little issues with the draft. However, we need to start drafting players who fill needs and can make an immediate impact early. We are in the position to start drafting this way because Ted Thompson has done a great job at adding depth to our team.

Nice article.
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gakko
16 years ago
I got one thing to say about all this, and you should all watch VERY closely:

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IronMan
16 years ago

I got one thing to say about all this, and you should all watch VERY closely:

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"gakko" wrote:


LOL that was awesome.
gakko
16 years ago
btw speaking of Bobby Knight, I think this is what we need in the lockerroom right now:
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16 years ago
Looking back at last year, who would of thought our defense would turn out like this?
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
The Amazing Mike Vandermause
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