sschind
11 years ago

At this point, I do think I'd take Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery, Martellus Bennett, and Matt Forte over Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Andrew Quarless, and Eddie Lacy. Alshon Jeffery is quickly becoming an elite receiver. Once Cobb and Rodgers are back, I don't think it would really matter much. But Chicago's main offensive weapons are nothing to laugh about, at all. Having two elite WRs and an elite RB is tough to stop.

And for the 2013 season, I don't see how there can any any debate. McCown >>> Flynn.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I'm not sure how I missed this post Dodd, its essentially what I said later on. The Bears have built a very good offense. We may all be in a bit more trouble if they can nail down a franchise QB to run it all. I do think Cutler CAN BE that QB but will he get a chance. I don't think McCown is the long term answer even though he has looked pretty darn good this year.
play2win
11 years ago

There wasn't much "basking in the glow of a high draft pick" since pretty much anyone responsible for that mess lost their job. I'm sure they were fine with sacrificing their livelihoods for the good of the Indianapolis Colts though.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



If you don't think that was part of a larger buyout of Bill and Chris Polian, you're crazy. Jim Irsay runs that team, his family always has, and he is firmly basking in the glow. The Colts tanked. It was perfectly orchestrated.

Bill & Chris were ending a 14 year run at the helm of the team, both were up for contract renewals, Chris was hated in the organization and Irsay wanted to fire him, AND Peyton was injured and up for a new contract as well.

Irsay ordered/orchestrated the tank to help his new team.
hardrocker950
11 years ago

If you don't think that was part of a larger buyout of Bill and Chris Polian, you're crazy. Jim Irsay runs that team, his family always has, and he is firmly basking in the glow. The Colts tanked. It was perfectly orchestrated.

Bill & Chris were ending a 14 year run at the helm of the team, both were up for contract renewals, Chris was hated in the organization and Irsay wanted to fire him, AND Peyton was injured and up for a new contract as well.

Irsay ordered/orchestrated the tank to help his new team.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I'm glad someone else noticed this too. Pretty obvious when you consider they had a rancid season - then next year are suddenly contenders again. Combine that with the quote above, and it is obvious.

Yerko
11 years ago



3: The Bares have "more weapons?" lol

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



This can simply be changed to, "the Bears have an offensive line that gives their back up QB adequate time to read the defense and routes."

The Bears turned their offensive line situation around in one off-season. Signed a free agent left tackles and (luckily) drafted two guys on the right side with a HIGH ceiling.

And yes, at this time...the Bears do have more weapons. They have two receivers at the top of the league right now, a premier runningback and a good tight end. Packers offense is decimated.
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
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