sschind
11 years ago

103 yards in one half of football, for a 5.6 yard per carry average is disappointing?

I'm high on the kid.

I hope this was just a roster move and not some perverse attempt at hiding a serious neck injury.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I was going to say the same thing and a 4th rounder to boot. Far from a failure in my eyes. Then again some people expect every draft pick to be an all star from day one.

I might add the The packers are a 1 RB team. The #1 guy gets the vast majority of the carries. The #2 guy may get a few and the #3 guy is lucky to get in on an offensive play. Lacy is #1, Starks is #2, that leaves Franklin on the sidelines for the offense.
Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

Really? Why continue with this? I would love to hear your thoughts on him if he had gone to some other school than Ohio State. I think Hawk has played much better this season than his two previous. Why make your fellow posters go out of their way to beat this dead horse, in a topic that doesn't even mention your AJ Hawk?

Aiyewa is 6-1 234 apparently. Hope the kid does well.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Hawk has been good this year. But I think we could move on from him next year and improve with a more athletic playmaking LB. He's just not as great in coverage/pursuit as he used to be. It really showed against the Vikings. Don't get me wrong he makes plays, but Imo we could improve from him in the draft or via FA. I mean if you wanna keep him fine, but we have to get better there some time in the future. You need a good MLB in the NFL these days, he just isn't the same. I have no doubt Ted Thompson will try to keep him. The only thing that he has stock in is availability. Which will benefit his return. But i'd seriously consider moving him into a backup role next year if they keep him.

I would be fine actually with Brad Jones and Lattimore starting.
sschind
11 years ago

Hawk has been good this year. But I think we could move on from him next year and improve with a more athletic playmaking LB. He's just not as great in coverage/pursuit as he used to be. It really showed against the Vikings. Don't get me wrong he makes plays, but Imo we could improve from him in the draft or via FA. I mean if you wanna keep him fine, but we have to get better there some time in the future. You need a good MLB in the NFL these days, he just isn't the same. I have no doubt Ted Thompson will try to keep him. The only thing that he has stock in is availability. Which will benefit his return. But i'd seriously consider moving him into a backup role next year if they keep him.

I would be fine actually with Brad Jones and Lattimore starting.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 




With all the other positions that we need help on you want to dump the guy that has been playing the best on out defense (that may not be saying much) If we were solid at all other positions I might agree but we need lots of help. If someone better comes along I am not opposed to letting him go but he is one of the few guys we should not be planning on replacing. If you are fine with Jones and Lattimore that is one thing, no real need to go out and find a replacement but if you cut him and have to replace him you don't really gain anything.
sschind
11 years ago





Aiyewa is what he is, a UDFA signed to the practice squad, and now because of injuries he is on the 53 man roster.

Would be amazing if, when he gets a chance to play, he would contribute.

At most he will be playing Special teams, hopefully he will contribute.

The problem will be if he is forced into playing defense and doesn't perform like a 4 year vet, he will be vilified by some and branded a failure.

IE: Just look at what is being said about Tolzien.



Ted does his job, selecting these guys, I figure he must know what he's doing, or The Packers would not have hired him/and kept him.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



And if he looks half way decent he will be proclaimed as the next star linebacker ala Dezman Moses or Frank Zombo or Vic Soto or any one those UDFA that have a halfway decent game or two or training camp and then disappear.

nerdmann
11 years ago

And if he looks half way decent he will be proclaimed as the next star linebacker ala Dezman Moses or Frank Zombo or Vic Soto or any one those UDFA that have a halfway decent game or two or training camp and then disappear.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Moses was the real deal last year.

I think they knocked him a little due to injury this year in TC.
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play2win
11 years ago

Dude, it's a joke.



Aiyewa is what he is, a UDFA signed to the practice squad, and now because of injuries he is on the 53 man roster.

Would be amazing if, when he gets a chance to play, he would contribute.

At most he will be playing Special teams, hopefully he will contribute.

The problem will be if he is forced into playing defense and doesn't perform like a 4 year vet, he will be vilified by some and branded a failure.

IE: Just look at what is being said about Tolzien.

I will defend him, just like I do all other players on the 53 man roster.

No matter where they went to college.

Ted does his job, selecting these guys, I figure he must know what he's doing, or The Packers would not have hired him/and kept him.


Again, it was a joke.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Well buckeye, YOU GOT ME!!!! 😆 😆 😆 Well done. Hook. Line. Sinker.#-o
play2win
11 years ago

I was going to say the same thing and a 4th rounder to boot. Far from a failure in my eyes. Then again some people expect every draft pick to be an all star from day one.

I might add the The packers are a 1 RB team. The #1 guy gets the vast majority of the carries. The #2 guy may get a few and the #3 guy is lucky to get in on an offensive play. Lacy is #1, Starks is #2, that leaves Franklin on the sidelines for the offense.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I would add that Mike McCarthy is just now learning how to call a running game, and he is still struggling. I wish he had embraced the concept a couple of years ago… I think if we had gone to a 3 headed rushing attack against CHI, PHI and NYG, we might be in a far better position right now.

42 passing attempts against PHI with Wallace and Tolzien… ???? WOW. Just pound the freaking rock!
luigis
11 years ago

103 yards in one half of football, for a 5.6 yard per carry average is disappointing?

I'm high on the kid.

I hope this was just a roster move and not some perverse attempt at hiding a serious neck injury.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



It was just one game and he barely touched the ball in all the other games. When he was healthy McCarthy couldn't find a way to make him contribute to the team.

Luis
Mucky Tundra
11 years ago
Pity about Franklin. Wish he could have gotten work as a pass catcher out the backfield.
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play2win
11 years ago

It was just one game and he barely touched the ball in all the other games. When he was healthy McCarthy couldn't find a way to make him contribute to the team.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



I honestly don't think McCarthy tried hard enough with Jonathan Franklin. I think he could have been used far more effectively. McCarthy is simply too stuck on his way of doing things, which means primarily utilizing the pass. That was made clear with 42 pass attempts with 2 scrub QBs against PHI, and 3 healthy running backs. To me, that seems kind of pig headed and lazy. As a HC, why would you not adjust your game plan to increase your odds of securing a W? Run, run, and run some more, chew up clock and keep a potent PHI offense off the field. Didn't happen.

Why not think outside the box and throw 50 carries at them, using all 3 RBs? Had we done this during this stretch without Rodgers, we might be 7-4 or 8-3.

With Franklin out, do they promote Orwin Smith and his 9.3 yards/carry average @GT from the PS to the roster? Probably wait to see if someone else goes down first…?
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