beast
11 years ago

This could be more possible than people realize.

Hard to say what the coaches are thinking, but a number of people in the know have suggested it.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yes in the know... but in the know of what? 👅 (just kidding)


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Gaycandybacon
11 years ago
There's no way they cut Neal, to much raw talent and versatility. Probably one of our best pass rushers on the team.
PackerTraxx
11 years ago
Maybe somebody will offer a first round...just dreaming.
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Pack93z
11 years ago

There's no way they cut Neal, to much raw talent and versatility. Probably one of our best pass rushers on the team.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



When healthy... when has that raw talent netted him production on the field?

The Neal decision, in my opinion, has to be focused on his health right now verses that risk that he can remain healthy. His track record has to be a chief concern in keeping him over a developing player without the same risk factor and track record.

Neal to me over his time here in Green Bay reminds me of that girl winks at you in the hallway but bolts at record speed when you approach to ask her out. Looks inviting but disappears when the rubber meets the road.
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play2win
11 years ago

When healthy... when has that raw talent netted him production on the field?

The Neal decision, in my opinion, has to be focused on his health right now verses that risk that he can remain healthy. His track record has to be a chief concern in keeping him over a developing player without the same risk factor and track record.

Neal to me over his time here in Green Bay reminds me of that girl winks at you in the hallway but bolts at record speed when you approach to ask her out. Looks inviting but disappears when the rubber meets the road.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I could not agree more. Neal had 1 sack against IND in his first game back from suspension in a loss. He had 1 against AZ in a blowout win (31-17). 1.5 against CHI, with an incredibly shitty OL, and 1 against TEN in another blowout win (55-7). Nothing in 2 playoff games, but 1 assist on a tackle. He had 11 combined tackles in the 11 regular season games he played. Combined. 8 Total with 3 Assists.

Mike Neal has not really shown himself to be much of a sack artist. I mean, not at all. He is one player who needs to play insanely well these next two preseason games, IMO. But, we don't know how much they are looking to utilized him at LB. Capers may like to change looks with him in there, on the fly. That seems to be the only positive in this that might be keeping him around. Otherwise, I see Wilson and Boyd being better DL and Palmer and Manning being better LBs.
sschind
11 years ago

I would not be surprised to see Neal cut. We keep both Jolly and Boyd. Neal was an experiment that just is not panning out IMO. He is the most expendable of our DL group listed there. We keep 7.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I just don't see them cutting Neal. Ted Thompson drafted him high (although maybe he was high when he drafted him I don't know) and they held onto him through injury after injury so they must have seen something. Now that he appears healthy I just don't see them cutting him loose. I could see if he had shown absolutely nothing but he did show some flashes of why they drafted him when he played. At least as much as Jolly or Boyd.
DoddPower
11 years ago

I just don't see them cutting Neal. Ted Thompson drafted him high (although maybe he was high when he drafted him I don't know) and they held onto him through injury after injury so they must have seen something. Now that he appears healthy I just don't see them cutting him loose. I could see if he had shown absolutely nothing but he did show some flashes of why they drafted him when he played. At least as much as Jolly or Boyd.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Mike Neal isn't getting cut. Not even close, imo. He is very likely the Packers best pass rushing 'big man,' other than Datone Jones, who has yet to even play a preseason game. Yeah, he has issues with availability and consistency, but the talent is there, and he has contributed. Also, he's in a contract year, so if he disappoints again this season, he'll move on elsewhere with no ramifications for the Packers.

Neal provides some nice depth at a few positions (defensive end, defensive tackle, and outside linebacker). He undoubtedly has the ability to rush the passer. He just needs to stay somewhat healthy this season and he will more than earn his keep on this roster as a depth player. There's not player on the Packers defense that is very consistent, other than Clay Mathews, and even he is up and down sometimes. I just don't see any way that the Packers cut a relatively healthy Mike Neal. In fact, even if he gets injured again, he'll probably end up on injured reserve rather than being cut. Of course we would like to see more production from him, but at least he has the ability to provide the production. The same can't necessary be said for several other of the Packers defensive linemen, especially in the pass rush department.
Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

Mike Neal isn't getting cut. Not even close, imo. He is very likely the Packers best pass rushing 'big man,' other than Datone Jones, who has yet to even play a preseason game. Yeah, he has issues with availability and consistency, but the talent is there, and he has contributed. Also, he's in a contract year, so if he disappoints again this season, he'll move on elsewhere with no ramifications for the Packers.

Neal provides some nice depth at a few positions (defensive end, defensive tackle, and outside linebacker). He undoubtedly has the ability to rush the passer. He just needs to stay somewhat healthy this season and he will more than earn his keep on this roster as a depth player. There's not player on the Packers defense that is very consistent, other than Clay Mathews, and even he is up and down sometimes. I just don't see any way that the Packers cut a relatively healthy Mike Neal. In fact, even if he gets injured again, he'll probably end up on injured reserve rather than being cut. Of course we would like to see more production from him, but at least he has the ability to provide the production. The same can't necessary be said for several other of the Packers defensive linemen, especially in the pass rush department.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I always thought the starting D-Line would be Datone Jones, B.J.Raji, Mike Neal.

Obviously they don't wanna move Pickett off the field so it spoiled my prediction.

If they wanna get pass rush from the base, they have to get Pickett and Wilson off the field. I hope they don't use Pickett/Wilson in every Base.

Datone and Neal would be dynamic on the field togetther
Mucky Tundra
11 years ago
If Jolly can keep the play from the St Louis game up and gets on the team, I wonder if Capers would go with a 3 man DL in nickel instead of the 2 DL stuff we've seen the past few seasons? I'm thinking it would be a 3-3-5, which I've seen some in this forum mention the past few months. Different combinations of Jolly, Daniels, Jones, Raji on the line with Perry and Matthews coming on the edges with Neal doing his DE-LB hybrid role thingy occasionally?

It sounds good in my head but not sure if it would work well on the field.
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beast
11 years ago

I always thought the starting D-Line would be Datone Jones, B.J.Raji, Mike Neal.

Obviously they don't wanna move Pickett off the field so it spoiled my prediction.

If they wanna get pass rush from the base, they have to get Pickett and Wilson off the field. I hope they don't use Pickett/Wilson in every Base.

Datone and Neal would be dynamic on the field togetther

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 




Capers uses the starting base more for run defense than pass rush. Though I do wonder if Raji might be better pass rusher if they let him rest more.

Might be interesting to see a run defense of

Pickett, Jolly, and Wilson

Fresh pass rush of Jones, Raji and Daniels

(Neal working time at both DE and OLB)
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