PackerTraxx
12 years ago

No. Favre's successor WAS a hole to fill. Without question. He had been feigning retirement for some time prior. The fact that Rodgers dropped in our laps was a giant stroke of good luck. He was mocked to go #4 to TB by Walter.

We had defensive needs at the time in our secondary. Walter had us mocked to pick CB R1, then to pick QB Charlie Frye R2. I saw Matt Cassel as our R1 pick in a Scout mock. So, word was out, and really, it was common knowledge that we needed a QB. Fave was entering his 14th season.

Not bustin' your balls QCHuskerFan, but that is the way it was then. I think nearly everyone thought, "well, OK..." when we went Rodgers. The pick made perfect sense. Favre had seemed invincible, but everyone knew his time was running out, and getting his replacement was imperative over those next two seasons.

Funny too, that those defensive needs were addressed with Ted's R2 pick of Nick Collins. What a draft!

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Not many people thought that was a great pick, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth around the campfires along the Fox River and into the valleys of southern and western Packerland, even up Nort. One always hopes for some immediate help from the draft but more times than not that doesn't happen for whatever reasons. So I felt, even thought we had Brett who could easily play another half dozen years at that point, it was a great pick for the future. It was the classic BPA pick. Most available players are rated closely so that BPA also fills a need.


Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
PackerTraxx
12 years ago
Oh...which pick would tick me off...none...I have 100% faith Ted Thompson will make the best pick possible based on our situation. What would I like to see...more help for the front seven, especially on DL, or Pro Bowl safety. What I'd least like to see outside QB,P,K...OG, unless he's an immediate All Pro. I believe a good center would really help this team's offense so I hope we can address that with more than a UFA or late pick.
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
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12 years ago

Not many people thought that was a great pick, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth around the campfires along the Fox River and into the valleys of southern and western Packerland, even up Nort. One always hopes for some immediate help from the draft but more times than not that doesn't happen for whatever reasons. So I felt, even thought we had Brett who could easily play another half dozen years at that point, it was a great pick for the future. It was the classic BPA pick. Most available players are rated closely so that BPA also fills a need.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



There were a lot of complaints from fans many of them were Favre-ites. I loved the 🇦🇷 pick. It is not often you get a prospective #1 overall pick falling all the way down to #24. I figured Brett had 2-3 years left in him tops. It takes 3 years to develop a qb so if Brett quit after 2 years Rodgers would have to learn under fire. If Brett stuck around for 4 years Rodgers would be sitting on the bench a little longer than he needed to but that is the breaks of the NFL.
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yooperfan
12 years ago
Okay.
It would knock me right off my square if they picked a cornerback.
How irrational is that?
I'm all worked up over a slim possibility.
beast
12 years ago

Not counting K, P and QB

I think my least favorite positions for a 1st round pick would be

ILB, OG, C, RB.

I think if the Packers resign Brad Jones their ILB group is pretty good. Not great but Hawk played a lot better with the defensive changes this year and the group as a whole is very good. And I think 3-4 ILB is a role position more than play making... unless you got a LB that can it all... cover like a Safety, blitz like a 3-4 OLB and tackle.

Seems like 1st round Centers rarely live up to the 1st round grade.

OG can live up to 1st round grade, but I think the Packers found a nice back-up OG in Barclay. He needed some extra help at OT, I don't think he would at OG, plus don't like to draft an OG high if he can't play OT nor C.

RB, just because it seems like a lot of 1st round RBs don't live up to it. They're great with very good blocking and weak college defenders trying to get them but look bad against NFL guys. Don't get me wrong, some RBs are worth it, but a lot of teams have waited until 2nd or 3rd and picked up a nice one just as good or better than some 1st round RB picks.


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dfosterf
12 years ago

You're just like Gunny, don't know shit from shinola. [grin1]

I'd rather we took a legitimate center than a guard, but interior run blocker is a must.

Would anybody give up our #1 for Revis and the Jets 3rd?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



The gunny was an absolute expert on football while you shat through your pants and diapers, smeared it all over your face and ate it... only to be stopped once in a great while when relatives showed up to try and wipe the disgusting mess off you as a humanitarian gesture to your poor- overwhelmed parents.

That being said... 🤣

Lineman on offense or DE / OLB defense. I want them and I hate wanting them.

Again. Because Ted is not getting it done.
DakotaT
12 years ago

The gunny was an absolute expert on football while you shat through your pants and diapers, smeared it all over your face and ate it... only to be stopped once in a great while when relatives showed up to try and wipe the disgusting mess off you as a humanitarian gesture to your poor- overwhelmed parents.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Well I have news for you, when you revert back to shitting in your pants and living off the state of Pennsylvania in an old person's home, I'll be there slipping you some Cialis in your pureed food. Then I'll stick around and watch the Packer game with you and laugh when the CNA's check out your wood.
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dfosterf
12 years ago

Well I have news for you, when you revert back to shitting in your pants and living off the state of Pennsylvania in an old person's home, I'll be there slipping you some Cialis in your pureed food. Then I'll stick around and watch the Packer game with you and laugh when the CNA's check out your wood.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 





It's a deal, and I appreciate it, lol

play2win
11 years ago

Oh...which pick would tick me off...none...I have 100% faith Ted Thompson will make the best pick possible based on our situation. What would I like to see...more help for the front seven, especially on DL, or Pro Bowl safety. What I'd least like to see outside QB,P,K...OG, unless he's an immediate All Pro. I believe a good center would really help this team's offense so I hope we can address that with more than a UFA or late pick.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



PackerTraxx, I couldn't agree more.

I desperately want them to add a DE, NT, S and a LB - all players who can start. However, I'm open to Ted nabbing a WR, TE, LT, RB or C if they choose to go to one of those positions early.

We need help at every one of those positions to varying degrees. Take "need" out of the equation, and upgrades through true BPA will make this team better.

I'm stoked for this draft.
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11 years ago
It is not so much the position that would tick me off as much as it would be the player.

For example. If Uncle Ted drafts Justin Harrell AGAIN I will:






Ted has been know to take a flyer on injury prone players that he sees as having a great upside IF they are healthy. In the 5th round- fantastic. In the first round NOOOOOOOOOOO!
I didn't mind he drafting Starks or Datko. Back then I did trust his judgement on Harrell but he was used that card. Stick with healthy players please.
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