shield4life
12 years ago
Even tho I love Jennings I don't want him in GB next year. I'll explain why!

1- His 29 years old and past two season his been plagued with injuries. Not worth paying big bucks to have him on the side line.

2- As someone else stated Jennings won't be as good as WR if it wasn't AR throwing to him.

3- We've got very deep WR corp even if we lose Jennings we've got Nelson / Jones / Cobb that can all be starters

4- Rather keep that big $$$ and pay out for our future FA's that will be more important to keep the Jennings right now (Matthews / Raji / Finley / AR will be looking for a raise sooner or later etc...

5- Will gives us an opportunity to at least keep Finley for one more year to see what he brings, still got some confidence in him

We need to look at the bigger picture here, so does Greg Jennings. If he gets a home discount deal and sticks around for a good salary that I'm all for him to be coming back if not then forget it. Deals like this are what can make or brake your franchise.
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Since69
12 years ago
Any trade potential here, rather than letting him walk in free agency? If Ted Thompson and MM both go public saying that they'd prefer for him to stay in Green Bay, maybe we could get someone to offer a starting-caliber running back or left tackle(?)

Oh, and Finley? Pfft. Goodbye. I don't see ANY chance of him returning.
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DakotaT
12 years ago

Any trade potential here, rather than letting him walk in free agency? If Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy both go public saying that they'd prefer for him to stay in Green Bay, maybe we could get someone to offer a starting-caliber running back or left tackle(?)

Oh, and Finley? Pfft. Goodbye. I don't see ANY chance of him returning.

Originally Posted by: Since69 



Didn't we learn this lesson with the thought getting a second rounder out of Matt Flynn last year? NFL contracts are accompanied with huge signing bonuses and a team cannot eat that just to screw a team out of a draft pick. The time to trade Jennings would have been last year. Let's just appreciate that he was a huge part of our 4th Super Bowl championship, wish him well, and send him down the road. We have more important contracts to deal with and Jennings knows that. I didn't appreciate the Cullen Jenkins/Wells shot he gave.

And 69 - I'm not sure I agree with you on Finley. I was hoping Williams would have stepped up this year, but he hasn't - and Quarless is a better blocker but far inferior to Finley as a receiving threat.
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gbguy20
12 years ago
I'd love to keep Grog. I don't understand why everyone says he is not a number 1 WR. I'm assuming everyone's list of number 1 receivers consists of Andre Johnson, Larry Fitz, AJ Green, Megatron, maybe Bmarsh and then basically no one else?

So there's what, 5 number 1 WR's in the league? That's some pretty strict criteria, folks.

I was under the understanding that cutting Finley's 7 mill off the books next year we'd be ok resigning Grog, or at least franchising him for a year?

This would be for another thread but I am not ok with giving Raji a huge contract.
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musccy
12 years ago

I'd love to keep Grog. I don't understand why everyone says he is not a number 1 WR. I'm assuming everyone's list of number 1 receivers consists of Andre Johnson, Larry Fitz, AJ Green, Megatron, maybe Bmarsh and then basically no one else?

So there's what, 5 number 1 WR's in the league? That's some pretty strict criteria, folks.

I was under the understanding that cutting Finley's 7 mill off the books next year we'd be ok resigning Grog, or at least franchising him for a year?

This would be for another thread but I am not ok with giving Raji a huge contract.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



I have not read about or am privy to any information from within the franchise, but my assumption was similar after the McGinn article on Finley last week. AR, CM3, and Raji are all looming. To me this leaves (at best) an either/or scenario with Finley and Greg. The team would be paying Finley roughly 8 next year, the franchise is 9.5 for Greg, so the difference is (relatively) minimal.

I've heard Greg is hoping for 16/yr, in which case there is no way in hell the Pack can sign him. If he's willing to come down towards 9ish range, I think it at least opens the door for an either/or option with Finley.
gbguy20
12 years ago

I have not read about or am privy to any information from within the franchise, but my assumption was similar after the McGinn article on Finley last week. AR, CM3, and Raji are all looming. To me this leaves (at best) an either/or scenario with Finley and Greg. The team would be paying Finley roughly 8 next year, the franchise is 9.5 for Greg, so the difference is (relatively) minimal.

I've heard Greg is hoping for 16/yr, in which case there is no way in hell the Pack can sign him. If he's willing to come down towards 9ish range, I think it at least opens the door for an either/or option with Finley.

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16? In that case cya Grog
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
The most I have heard in regards to what Greg Jennings is desiring is just over $10 million a year. I don't think even Calvin Johnson is making $16 million a year with his insane but deserved contract. And Jennings is no Johnson and more importantly to contract negotiations, Jennings know this.
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DakotaT
12 years ago

The most I have heard in regards to what Greg Jennings is desiring is just over $10 million a year. I don't think even Calvin Johnson is making $16 million a year with his insane but deserved contract. And Jennings is no Johnson and more importantly to contract negotiations, Jennings know this.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yes, but Jennings' agent gets paid a commission. There won't be any home town discount, because I don't think Greg necessarily wants to be in Green Bay. We have never had trouble finding receivers, and I think the guys we have on the roster will handle things just fine. Although to Jennings' credit, he is a fantastic route runner.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Yes, but Jennings' agent gets paid a commission. There won't be any home town discount, because I don't think Greg necessarily wants to be in Green Bay. We have never had trouble finding receivers, and I think the guys we have on the roster will handle things just fine. Although to Jennings' credit, he is a fantastic route runner.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Wait a tick! You mean ... wait ... no ... let me catch my breath ... ok ... so you mean his ... AGENT gets a cut? OMG!! When did agents start taking a cut???????

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Anyhow, Greg Jennings has several times said he likes Green Bay (before his contract stuff came up) and one thing he really likes is the proximity to his hometown. Teams closer to his hometown will have a better chance.


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12 years ago

Yes, but Jennings' agent gets paid a commission. There won't be any home town discount, because I don't think Greg necessarily wants to be in Green Bay. We have never had trouble finding receivers, and I think the guys we have on the roster will handle things just fine. Although to Jennings' credit, he is a fantastic route runner.

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anyone working for commission must be a blood sucker.
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