Zero2Cool
12 years ago
What do you folks think about this?

DETROIT (97.1 The Ticket) On the long flight back for the Green Bay Packers following the team’s 14-12 loss to the Seattle Seahawks, players debated going on strike or taking a knee on every play in upcoming games if the replacement referee issue isn’t solved.

That’s according to Packers guard TJ Lang, a Royal Oak native who issued an infamous anti-NFL Tweet after the game that said “Fuck It NFL. Fine me and use the money to pay the regular refs.”

Many believe the Packers loss was caused by the worst referee decision in NFL history, and players got down to the nuts and bolts of what to do next on the plane, Lang said.

Lang said incensed players decided they’re willing to go to great lengths to show their displeasure about the replacement ref situation.

“Whatever it takes, it’s just a total embarrassment to everybody watching the game, the players in the game, it’s not fun to be part of something like that … If it keeps going on, it’s going to get ugly,” Lang said during a Tuesday afternoon interview on the Valenti & Foster show on 97.1 The Ticket.

He added: “Going into a game worrying about the refs more than the other team, it’s a problem. The NFL, the commissioners, if they don’t take action after last night … That should be the last straw.”

He added he didn’t regret his angry Tweets — which some are calling the most re-Tweeted lines in sports history — though he does regret using the “F-bomb.”

“Personally, I think more people need to speak up,” Lang said, adding players are too afraid of fines to say what they really believe.

He added it’s hypocritical for the NFL to “preach integrity, character, player safety,” and allow unqualified referees on the field whose calls could actually injure players.

“We were furious, man, as soon as we got into the locker room we turned the TVs on, it was just heartbreaking to have the game taken from us like that,” he said. “We put too much effort, blood, sweat and tears into this game to have it taken from us.”

So were the descriptions of 20 angry players throwing things at the TV after the game accurate? “It is accurate,” Lang said, adding, “I’ve never been part of anything like that, it’s hard to blame officials for that loss, you never want to use that excuse … but after we saw the replay and all the reaction from the newscasters on ESPN … We got robbed.

“It was kind of embarrassing to be part of it, everybody was furious, a lot of guys are trying to take the high road, but it’s hard to do when there’s that much emotion into one game. To have the win actually stolen from you? It’s frustrating.”

Foster said fans, even those in Detroit where Green Bay isn’t exactly a favored topic, felt the team’s pain.

“I don’t think it matters if you’re a fan of the Packers or not, everybody clearly saw that last play was an absolutely blown call,” Lang said. “It’s just emotionally straining. I woke up today kind of feeling the same way I did last night, just kind of dumbfounded that outcome played out the way it did.”

Today is a day off for the Packers, but many are wondering how they’ll come back from such a devastating loss. Lang said it is possible.

“Emotionally it’s just heartbreaking to have a game come down to that … it’s tough to get over, but as professionals you’ve got to find a way to move on,” he said.

But he’s not exactly over it, going on to say he doesn’t understand why refs didn’t take more time during the game to review the controversial play. The call was reaffirmed by the NFL Tuesday.

“Did they really look at it? What’s going on?” he recalled thinking after the call.

Lang added a number of bad calls have been piling up since the season began, adding, “If the NFL doesn’t step up and do something about it now, it’s just going to get worse.”

So, who does he blame? “It all starts with the owners, commissioners,” Lang said, adding, “The refs that we have right now, they don’t have the experience to make the proper calls, you can tell by watching every single game they’re having a hard time … They just asked a bunch of random guys to go out there.

“It’s clear that everybody, fans, players, hopefully the owners, realize it’s a problem, we can’t keep going on this way. It’s frustrating to have to go out there are worry about the refs … We see how important it is now.”

He said the controversy is “turning the league into a joke.”

“It’s frustrating to see the owners, the commissioners, aren’t taking any action toward it … The NFL needs to take action, it’s hard to blame these guys, it’s total confusion out there at some points for these guys. You just asked a couple of guys who have never reffed an NFL game to go out there and be perfect.”

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porky88
12 years ago
This might be a cliché, but given the circumstances -- this is an opportunity for Green Bay to come together. They took plays off last year, especially the defense, which I thought was lazy at times. That's obviously not the case this year, but the play calling has been complacent. I think the replacement refs woke up a sleeping giant.
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

This might be a cliché, but give the circumstances -- this is an opportunity for Green Bay to come together. They took plays off last year, especially the defense, which I thought was lazy at times. That's obviously not the case this year, but the play calling has been complacent. I think the replacement refs woke up a sleeping giant.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



I have a feeling the Saints aren't happy with the replacement refs, nor the NFL. Probably thinking, great, take our coaches and now you piss off the Packers when we gotta face'em?? Seriously?
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PackFanWithTwins
12 years ago
I agree with most of that.

But the blaming the Commish for everything gets old. He did not decide to lock out the Refs, or Players last year, that was the owners. He doesn't make the rules, that comes from the competition committee. And right now, he cannot make either the Owners and the Refs agree to terms or sign a deal.

Also the talk about the replacements increasing the risk of injury is BS. If there is an increased risk of injury, it is 100% because of the players actions. It seems like they players and analysts seem to be using the replacements as ammo in the lawsuits against the league.

It would be nice of teams could agree, and trade 3 and outs for an entire game. they can't strike, but nothing prevents them from not really playing. Match that up, the fans at the games continuing to tailgate and not entering the stadium until after the 1st qtr. Nothing pisses off sponsors and advertisers than empty seats.
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12 years ago

This might be a cliché, but give the circumstances -- this is an opportunity for Green Bay to come together. They took plays off last year, especially the defense, which I thought was lazy at times. That's obviously not the case this year, but the play calling has been complacent. I think the replacement refs woke up a sleeping giant.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



from your fingers to the team's ears.
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12 years ago

I agree with most of that.

But the blaming the Commish for everything gets old. He did not decide to lock out the Refs, or Players last year, that was the owners. He doesn't make the rules, that comes from the competition committee. And right now, he cannot make either the Owners and the Refs agree to terms or sign a deal.

Also the talk about the replacements increasing the risk of injury is BS. If there is an increased risk of injury, it is 100% because of the players actions. It seems like they players and analysts seem to be using the replacements as ammo in the lawsuits against the league.

It would be nice of teams could agree, and trade 3 and outs for an entire game. they can't strike, but nothing prevents them from not really playing. Match that up, the fans at the games continuing to tailgate and not entering the stadium until after the 1st qtr. Nothing pisses off sponsors and advertisers than empty seats.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



if Roger would have vacated the Seahawk win he could have asserted his authority over the owners.
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RaiderPride
12 years ago

if Roger would have vacated the Seahawk win he could have asserted his authority over the owners.

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No disrespect at all my friend, but I do not understand this logic at all. I am confused. I may be wrong, and am many, many times, however I always presumed Rodger Goodell was hired by the owners, represents the owners, and has to answer to the owners in all aspects as commissioner of the N.F.L.

How can an employee of the owners (Roger Goodell)assert his authority over his administrators?

WPR... Do I not understand the scope of the power Roger Goodell has with his position as commissioner of the NFL?







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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

No disrespect at all my friend, but I do not understand this logic at all. I am confused. I may be wrong, and am many, many times, however I always presumed Rodger Goodell was hired by the owners, represents the owners, and has to answer to the owners in all aspects as commissioner of the N.F.L.

How can an employee of the owners (Roger Goodell)assert his authority over his administrators?

WPR... Do I not understand the scope of the power Roger Goodell has with his position as commissioner of the NFL?

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



I believe it's similar to how the citizens vote for the President, but the President holds the power to be impartial for the citizens, so to speak.

The owners collectively elect a commissioner who will best serve the NFL as an impartial authority who will do what's right.


Roger Goodell locked out the referee's, probably on the urge of the owners to save them money.


The commissioner has the authority to correct mistakes. He chose not to and I believe part of his reasoning for not changing the results (aside from a poor precedent) was because it would shine an even more negative light on the replacement refs.
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Since69
12 years ago
Lang's remarks are just hot-headed chatter. No team is going to intentionally tank a game. Not for any reason.

And I'm not on the Goodell bashwagon, either. The refs make damn good money already, and they got a 2.5% raise this year (the same that I got, BTW). They decided they wanted 8%. And a pension. Eventually a compromise will be reached, but for Goodell and the owners to just give in every time the NFLRA holds their breath isn't good for the game, either.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
I wish I got over $5,000 a week while only working 4-5 months a year.
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