Wade
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12 years ago

They can't get college refs because the pro refs' union (the NFLRA) also controls the college refs. And they've let it be known that anyone who crosses the picket line won't have their college gig to go back to once the lockout is over.

College refs did step in the last time the refs went on strike (in 2001?). The BCS refs stepped in and were competent enough that the regular refs weren't missed. It cost the refs a lot of bargaining power, so the NFLRA is making sure it doesn't happen again.

Originally Posted by: Since69 



And so if we want to complain about the quality of the replacements, we have to put a big share of the blame on the pro refs themselves.

Hmm.


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PackerTraxx
12 years ago

They can't get college refs because the pro refs' union (the NFLRA) also controls the college refs. And they've let it be known that anyone who crosses the picket line won't have their college gig to go back to once the lockout is over.

College refs did step in the last time the refs went on strike (in 2001?). The BCS refs stepped in and were competent enough that the regular refs weren't missed. It cost the refs a lot of bargaining power, so the NFLRA is making sure it doesn't happen again.

Originally Posted by: Since69 



Thanks for the clarification.
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gbguy20
12 years ago

They can't get college refs because the pro refs' union (the NFLRA) also controls the college refs. And they've let it be known that anyone who crosses the picket line won't have their college gig to go back to once the lockout is over.

College refs did step in the last time the refs went on strike (in 2001?). The BCS refs stepped in and were competent enough that the regular refs weren't missed. It cost the refs a lot of bargaining power, so the NFLRA is making sure it doesn't happen again.

Originally Posted by: Since69 



This is accurate except for one huge issue. There are college refs working as replacement officials in the NFL right now. Replace the word "College" with "Division 1" and your post becomes correct.

Anywho, I like the idea of kneeing on every play, doing some sort on the field strike to kick the owners squarely in the nuts. But, I would much rather the Packers use that as a fire under their butt to punish the NFL by RUNNING THE FUCK OVER every opponent they face for the rest of this season. Use this as fuel to wake the fuck up and make a statement. We're not going to take any shit. You held us down and shit in our mouth last week, now we're going to face fuck all of you from here on out. With this mentality we won't be in the position to be fucked over by the refs again.
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gbguy20
12 years ago

I heard on a newscast yesterday that one of the things the owners want is full time refs. Which I believe is a good idea. Any one else know about this? The regular refs we have now are part time with mostly some kind of professional full time occupation. So does anybody know what the ramifications are both ways as to these factors?

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



The NFL wants 7 full time referees, one from each position on the field. They will pay these guys to focus on ways to improve the way they do things, and to develop further/train the other refs in the league who are in the same position as they are. Basically a way to improve officiating one position at a time.
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Yerko
12 years ago
I must be the only one on the side of the real officials. Maybe they are asking for a tad too much, but why not? Look at who they are working for. Most of these original officials (Hochuli to name one) are full-time employees elsewhere. Who knows what exactly they do (Hochuli has his own law office, lol) but these guys are taking additional time out of their lives to go officiate NFL games over the weekends and now during the week (Monday and Thursday games).
I'd be asking for more money as well, especially with the leverage of "there aren't many people out there that can do our job." The proof is in the pudding and every week their leverage is getting stronger. Before you blame the officials asking for more, again...look at their employer and realize how much money they make a year.

And yes, I understand that there are other part-time NFL employees that do not receive what these officials are asking for, but what position do these other part-timers hold?

Being an NFL official does not come off as an easy gig, at all. Pay em.


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12 years ago

I must be the only one on the side of the real officials. Maybe they are asking for a tad too much, but why not? Look at who they are working for. Most of these original officials (Hochuli to name one) are full-time employees elsewhere. Who knows what exactly they do (Hochuli has his own law office, lol) but these guys are taking additional time out of their lives to go officiate NFL games over the weekends and now during the week (Monday and Thursday games).
I'd be asking for more money as well, especially with the leverage of "there aren't many people out there that can do our job." The proof is in the pudding and every week their leverage is getting stronger. Before you blame the officials asking for more, again...look at their employer and realize how much money they make a year.

And yes, I understand that there are other part-time NFL employees that do not receive what these officials are asking for, but what position do these other part-timers hold?

Being an NFL official does not come off as an easy gig, at all. Pay em.

Originally Posted by: G-Force 



I too have tuck up for them after Monday night. they are far from perfect but they are better than HS refs.
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12 years ago
NFL won’t fine Packers players 

After Monday night’s debacle in Seattle, Packers left guard T.J. Lang tweeted: “Fine me and use the money to pay the regular refs.”

Well, neither Lang nor any other Packers players will have to cough up any money.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in an email to the Press-Gazette that “we’re not looking at that” when asked whether any players would be fined for their comments or tweets.

Lang, right guard Josh Sitton and quarterback Aaron Rodgers were among the more outspoken Packers players after the officials ruled that Seahawks receiver Golden Tate caught the game-winning touchdown after it appeared M.D. Jennings intercepted the ball.

Rodgers, in his weekly radio show on ESPN Milwaukee, said: “First of all, I have to do something that the NFL is not going to do, and I have to apologize to the fans. Our sport is generated, the multi-billion dollar machine is generated by people coming to watch us play. And the product that is on the field is not being complemented by an appropriate set of officials. The games are getting out of control.”



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gbguy20
12 years ago

I must be the only one on the side of the real officials. Maybe they are asking for a tad too much, but why not? Look at who they are working for. Most of these original officials (Hochuli to name one) are full-time employees elsewhere. Who knows what exactly they do (Hochuli has his own law office, lol) but these guys are taking additional time out of their lives to go officiate NFL games over the weekends and now during the week (Monday and Thursday games).
I'd be asking for more money as well, especially with the leverage of "there aren't many people out there that can do our job." The proof is in the pudding and every week their leverage is getting stronger. Before you blame the officials asking for more, again...look at their employer and realize how much money they make a year.

And yes, I understand that there are other part-time NFL employees that do not receive what these officials are asking for, but what position do these other part-timers hold?

Being an NFL official does not come off as an easy gig, at all. Pay em.

Originally Posted by: G-Force 



wait what? I haven't come across anyone who isn't on the side of the real officials.
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