Pack93z
12 years ago

No. Our generation is left uninspired because YOUR generation has done nothing significant in your lifetime except rack yourselves in debt up to your ears and work a 9 to 5 for 60 years. Yeah, that's EXACTLY what we want.

Originally Posted by: Formo 



No.. Our generation lead the internet and technology boom that brought the ability to "google" everything and supply this generation with nonstop reasons not to earn a damn thing; everything is expected to be available at your fingertips.

Why work or strive for anything when you can flip back in your lazyboy and virtually do anything you want. Had a bad day.. play Call of Duty.. feel competitive.. play a game of Madden. Sims games crack me up.. why play that damn game when you can do those things in real life.

My generations biggest crime is pampering the next generation with options galore to become addicted to the device of your choice. Giving everyone the ability to become instant experts via the net..

So there.. we are guilty.. guilty of continuing to the enabling of the me first mindset. LOL.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
12 years ago
That's what I have said about the net as well. It's given everyone "expert status" on everything. How many of those graphics (like the one I posted in the Amnesty thread) state percentages as facts without source citation of any kind? Slap a % on something that will upset others and you suddenly have a movement.

Get into an accident? Take them to court for everything they have, and then some, who cares if it was just a fender bender and no on was hurt ... you have EMOTIONAL STRESS!

God forbid anyone stop bitching about how little they make and focus more on making the most of what they have.
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DakotaT
12 years ago



God forbid anyone stop bitching about how little they make and focus more on making the most of what they have.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




That's the greatest thing that's ever come off your fat, lazy, pampered fingertips. [grin1]
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DakotaT
12 years ago

No.. Our generation lead the internet and technology boom that brought the ability to "google" everything and supply this generation with nonstop reasons not to earn a damn thing; everything is expected to be available at your fingertips.

Why work or strive for anything when you can flip back in your lazyboy and virtually do anything you want. Had a bad day.. play Call of Duty.. feel competitive.. play a game of Madden. Sims games crack me up.. why play that damn game when you can do those things in real life.

My generations biggest crime is pampering the next generation with options galore to become addicted to the device of your choice. Giving everyone to become instant experts via the net..

So there.. we are guilty.. guilty of continuing to the enabling of the me first mindset. LOL.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Yeah but what did the Boomers give Gen X, other than the great music of the seventies and STD's?


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Formo
12 years ago

No.. Our generation lead the internet and technology boom that brought the ability to "google" everything and supply this generation with nonstop reasons not to earn a damn thing; everything is expected to be available at your fingertips.

Why work or strive for anything when you can flip back in your lazyboy and virtually do anything you want. Had a bad day.. play Call of Duty.. feel competitive.. play a game of Madden. Sims games crack me up.. why play that damn game when you can do those things in real life.

My generations biggest crime is pampering the next generation with options galore to become addicted to the device of your choice. Giving everyone the ability to become instant experts via the net..

So there.. we are guilty.. guilty of continuing to the enabling of the me first mindset. LOL.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Guilty of 'leading' the next generation completely uninspired is far, far more accurate. My generation would be far more productive than it is now if they had better examples of people in your generation. We don't want the 9-5-60 crap, so we shut down. We'd rather live in dirt holes with our one or two gadgets than live in a better house and have a better car than our parents at our age.
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12 years ago

Sims games crack me up.. why play that damn game when you can do those things in real life.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I agree with everything else in your post, but not this one. Not fully, anyway. Well-designed sims allow you to do things you can't do in real life. And some of that is good. My favorite example is the simple Monte Carlo simulation that allows us to simulate the kind of experiments that one can't do with real economic decision-makers. I know that's not the kind of simulation you were talking about, but there are several "game"-like simulations that can help get across ideas that bore people to tears when one of us does the traditional chalk-n-talk.

(Of course, some of those game sims are so well designed that you can't do them in real life either -- anyone remember SimEarth? I loved that concept, but I couldn't play the thing worth a damn.

I think the worst thing about internet/games/CGI/etc. technologies is that they convince us that things are easy to do and that there's no sacrifice needed. If SimEarth suggests the potential for simulations, SimCity and my favorite games from the same era, Myst and Empire Deluxe, are guilty of suggesting that the things people want to do are less complicated than they really are.

Particularly when it comes to the coordination of the activities of large numbers of individuals. One of my favorite examples is tea. One of my favorite teas is an Oolong that comes from Yunnan province in southern China. Costs about $15 bucks for 2 oz. (or 50 cents a cup). Compared to Lipton's, this sounds extravagant as hell. But I dare any one "player" to find a way to influence all the other players necessary to reproduce the feat of getting ANY tea from Yunnan to Iowa for as low as $15. Know enough to figure out how to profit from part of one of those supply chains, sure. Master the entire network of connections -- count me extremely skeptical. Yet a game like SimCity has just enough complexity to suggest it is a realistic simulation but not enough to reflect the actual coordination required for successful coordination of even a small city-sized economic system.

And so we have more people who avoid learning things that are hard and complicated, and we have more people who are susceptible to the slicksters who claim that they have solution to such coordination problems.


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Cheesey
12 years ago
On the surface, government run healthcare sounds good. But let's face it, everything the government touches turns to S**T! Who really trusts them with our healthcare?
I have none now, and can't even afford my medications. But i don't see the government fixing that.
They want to be our "big brother", but they can't even control what they are spending now.

Plus, this will kill off many small businesses that can't afford to pay the insurance. And it's the small businesses that someday can become big....if they are allowed.
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DakotaT
12 years ago

On the surface, government run healthcare sounds good. But let's face it, everything the government touches turns to S**T! Who really trusts them with our healthcare?
I have none now, and can't even afford my medications. But i don't see the government fixing that.
They want to be our "big brother", but they can't even control what they are spending now.

Plus, this will kill off many small businesses that can't afford to pay the insurance. And it's the small businesses that someday can become big....if they are allowed.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Seems the older people are enjoying their medicare just fine (fuckin socialism) - the impoverished have been getting by on medicaid (fuckin socialism) relativeley well - so the only dumbasses are us working stiffs that have 80-20 plans or lesser coverage - and then we get socked really hard if something shitty happens. I have no problem with the single payer plan, so we all have medical care. The wealthy can still get the top care with their wine enemas if they like. Romneycare will work just fine.

As for your comment on small businesses, the internet is what is killing small businessmen. Why buy a retail good from an a jackass gouging you on 45% markup or better when you surf and save on the internet - and avoid state sales taxes in some cases?


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DakotaT
12 years ago

Guilty of 'leading' the next generation completely uninspired is far, far more accurate. My generation would be far more productive than it is now if they had better examples of people in your generation. We don't want the 9-5-60 crap, so we shut down. We'd rather live in dirt holes with our one or two gadgets than live in a better house and have a better car than our parents at our age.

Originally Posted by: Formo 



So basically you're saying that you are too fuckin lazy as a generation to go out and get it yourself, so you settle for less. That's fine, whatever you want to do. Just remember though - it takes a real man to get up and work that 9-5 for forty years, and take shit from assholes, to provide for his family a home and all the trimmings. And until you walk in those shoes - you certainly have no write to judge him. So go crawl back in your dirt hole and play video games instead. Nobody is going to hand you a business either Formo.


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12 years ago
I won't get deep into the political issues here -- my main concern in the OPs was the constitutional/freedom consequences of the Roberts opinion, not the political issues of the bill itself.

However, I will say one thing with regard to the various "your generation" barbs that people have been floating -- it isn't going to be Boomers who are paying for the younger generations under Obamacare. It's going to be the other way around.

And it's that way by design. That's why the "individual mandate" -- the young are going to be asked to pay more of their fair share to insure all us extra boomers who refuse to die. The law says that premium charged to geezers can be no more than 3x the amount charged to the young. And guess what -- geezers have about 6x as much health care expense.

I can understand why my fellow lib boomers support the damn thing. The same reason the elderly thought the Repubs Prescription Drug plan a few years back was a good idea -- they're, er, we, are the ones most likely to be able to get a great deal.

But the young are going to get screwed big time.

Again.
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