4PackGirl
12 years ago

my bet says 4packgirl didn't watch the video at all.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



yes i did. i feel like i'm in a grade school argument so i'll just say this...

neener neener neeeeeeeener!!! [boxing]

Zero2Cool
12 years ago

my bet says 4packgirl didn't watch the video at all.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Eh, my experience with her, she prefers to make them rather than watch. Just. Sayin!
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4PackGirl
12 years ago

Eh, my experience with her, she prefers to make them rather than watch. Just. Sayin!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



hushy shush...that's supposed to be our lil secret.:-"

Pack93z
12 years ago
How the hell can anyone justify that type of beating being applied to the man?

Use enough force to subdue, especially when assistance arrived and they had him outnumbered at least 3 to 1. Deadly force only applies to when your life or public as a whole may be in danger.

Nothing more than a bully with a badge.

Now.. to be clear, that is not me saying all those with a badge are a bully. Just like in the rest of society, bad apples upon every tree.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
gbguy20
12 years ago

yes i did. i feel like i'm in a grade school argument so i'll just say this...

neener neener neeeeeeeener!!! [boxing]

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 



ok then i don't understand how u don't understand that if u fight the cops theyre going to beat ur ass until they can get u restrained

the beating isnt what killed him, anyhow.


The reaction to this video should not be: "throw those asshole cops in jail." it should be: "why aren't cops trained well enough to be able to restrain a man who they outnumber without resorting to the tazer, or without resorting to damaging violence? Why aren't cops trained to pay very close attention to how hard and long they are kneeling someone's back? Why are tazers used for ANYTHING but last resort?"

These issues need to be fixed in police forces nationwide to avoid repeats of this incident, these officers do not need to be thrown in jail.
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Rockmolder
12 years ago

ok then i don't understand how u don't understand that if u fight the cops theyre going to beat ur ass until they can get u restrained

the beating isnt what killed him, anyhow.


The reaction to this video should not be: "throw those asshole cops in jail." it should be: "why aren't cops trained well enough to be able to restrain a man who they outnumber without resorting to the tazer, or without resorting to damaging violence? Why aren't cops trained to pay very close attention to how hard and long they are kneeling someone's back? Why are tazers used for ANYTHING but last resort?"

These issues need to be fixed in police forces nationwide to avoid repeats of this incident, these officers do not need to be thrown in jail.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



You do know that becoming a cop actually requires some kind of education, right? That they're not just helpless guys thrown out there that just have to survive against the mean crminals.

Cops subdue people on a daily basis and, generally, that doesn't result in beating a guy that severely.

I'm not a cop expert, but I imagine that they have pretty good policies on how to get a suspecty down and out without beating the shit out of him. Just look at one episode of Cops or one of those car-chase shows.

And that 1-on-1.

Going 3-1, beating this homeless man to pulp without any real reason is just inhumane.
4PackGirl
12 years ago

ok then i don't understand how u don't understand that if u fight the cops theyre going to beat ur ass until they can get u restrained

the beating isnt what killed him, anyhow.


The reaction to this video should not be: "throw those asshole cops in jail." it should be: "why aren't cops trained well enough to be able to restrain a man who they outnumber without resorting to the tazer, or without resorting to damaging violence? Why aren't cops trained to pay very close attention to how hard and long they are kneeling someone's back? Why are tazers used for ANYTHING but last resort?"

These issues need to be fixed in police forces nationwide to avoid repeats of this incident, these officers do not need to be thrown in jail.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



the beating had nothing to do with his death? is that what you're saying?

i dated a cop who went thru the illinois state police academy in springfield, il. he was highly trained. they know exactly what they're supposed to do - these guys just chose NOT to.

i will never understand why there is no empathy left in this world. can we no longer put ourselves in others shoes? in fact, i can kind of see the whole 'gang mentality' taking over with these cops, things got out of hand, & a man is now dead as a result. see there? empathy. what i cannot overlook, however, is that a mentally ill man is dead at the hands of police officers.

if this happened to you, a friend, or a family member can you honestly say you'd feel the same? say it ain't so!

vikesrule
12 years ago

ok then i don't understand how u don't understand that if u fight the cops theyre going to beat ur ass until they can get u restrained

the beating isnt what killed him, anyhow.


The reaction to this video should not be: "throw those asshole cops in jail." it should be: "why aren't cops trained well enough to be able to restrain a man who they outnumber without resorting to the tazer, or without resorting to damaging violence? Why aren't cops trained to pay very close attention to how hard and long they are kneeling someone's back? Why are tazers used for ANYTHING but last resort?"

These issues need to be fixed in police forces nationwide to avoid repeats of this incident, these officers do not need to be thrown in jail.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Unfucking believable.
"the beating isn't what killed him, anyhow."

What killed Kelly Thomas then?
In your world did he beat himself to death?

Kelly Thomas died of brain injuries, which resulted from blunt force trauma to the head.
Thomas suffered several broken bones in his face, according to the medical records from UC Irvine's Medical Center, where Thomas died on July 10.




So you think that these asshole cops should not be thrown in jail.....bullshit. These assholes should be locked up and the key thrown away.

Or perhaps you should just join Officer Ramos and Officer Cicinelli and the three of you could all hold hands and fucking sing Kumbaya.




Please tell me that this is just a poor attempt at being controversial, because no one, and I mean no one is a big enough douche-bag to really believe the shit that you wrote.

gbguy20
12 years ago

Unfucking believable.
"the beating isn't what killed him, anyhow."

What killed Kelly Thomas then?
In your world did he beat himself to death?




So you think that these asshole cops should not be thrown in jail.....bullshit. These assholes should be locked up and the key thrown away.

Or perhaps you should just join Officer Ramos and Officer Cicinelli and the three of you could all hold hands and fucking sing Kumbaya.




Please tell me that this is just a poor attempt at being controversial, because no one, and I mean no one is a big enough douche-bag to really believe the shit that you wrote.

Originally Posted by: vikesrule 



I read somewhere that he died from asphyxia caused by the knee on his back, guess not. regardless, i'll see myself out of this thread.
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