Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
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People are still saying we are in trouble because of our 32nd ranked pass D.

I wanted to see just how often a team won or lost when you ranked them by passing D. Then I ranked them by D passer rating.

For kicks to see how relevant the passer rating differential really is. I added that.

Considering that the D passer rating is only a small part of what a team does, it contributes significantly to wins and losses.

The Passer Rating Differential has an astounding correlation to Winning considering that it doesn't include rushing or ST. It is a great way to rank teams.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
How can you use numbers compiled throughout 16 games to do a week by week win/loss measurement starting with each teams first game?

Aikman Efficiency Rating - link 
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
I have every weeks ratings in a spread sheet. I just copied the summary.

I can sort by any catagory in the spread sheet. OPR, DPR, PRD, O yards, D yards, Yardage Differential and wins.

This way I can show which category correlates to the wins the most for each week.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
That's kind of bogus. You should be recalculating every player on the team who's thrown a pass. Why do stats if you're not going to do them accurately? Do you work for ESPN or something? NFL Network? Sports Illustrated? No? Then be better then them!

okay going back to the playoff game ... weeee doggggggie
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
Thanks Dexter.

This shows how meaningless yards are. I don't think ANYONE with any credibility left still uses yards as a measurement.

What I'd like to see if you can whip it up Dexter is the PRD ranking of the SB winners. I'd guess that the vast majority of them are in the top 5.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Thanks Dexter.

This shows how meaningless yards are. I don't think ANYONE with any credibility left still uses yards as a measurement.

What I'd like to see if you can whip it up Dexter is the PRD ranking of the SB winners. I'd guess that the vast majority of them are in the top 5.

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Ha "whip".

I do know if you are one of the top 2 teams, you will be in the super bowl something like 60% of the time.

I googled it 90% are in the top 5
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
For my next trick,

I am going to figure the D passer rating of all opponents of each team and rank them.

That way I will get a strength of schedule based on this years opponents rating.
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macbob
13 years ago

Considering that the D passer rating is only a small part of what a team does, it contributes significantly to wins and losses.

The Passer Rating Differential has an astounding correlation to Winning considering that it doesn't include rushing or ST. It is a great way to rank teams.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



Passer Rating Differential will give you an idea of which teams are toward the top of the league and which are toward the bottom, just because it includes offensive scoring/defensive preventing scoring (passing TDs) and offense giving the ball away/defense taking the ball away (INTs) in it's computations.

I don't think it's an astounding correlation, more like a DUH correlation. Hey, an even more astounding correlation: the team that scores more wins! Well, DUH...

Duh-ness aside, I think Passer Rating Differential has a few issues:

- doesn't take into consideration the quality of the opposing offense & defense. For example, if you're playing in the AFC North, going up against Pit, Bal, Cle, etc your offensive passer rating is going to be lower just due to the quality of the defenses you're playing. Same holds true for DPR if you were going up against teams like the Packers, Patriots, Colts (with Manning), etc. Playing Denver twice would do wonders for your DPR.

- teams can start the season sucking at passer rating differential (NYG, 2007) but improve in time for the playoffs and sweep through. I think if some kind of weighting were applied where more recent games counted more than earlier games it would provide a more useful comparison.

I think a more useful stat would weight more recent games more than earlier games and look at how well your defense held the opposing QB compared to his average performance, and how well your QB did against the opposing defense compared to their average performance. For example, throwing 300 yds against Pittsburgh would be among the elite games against the Steelers (defense gave up 172 yds ave per game) while only an average performance against, say, the Packers (defense gave up 300 yds ave per game).
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