Giants Fake Injuries against Rams· Page 2

wpr
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13 years ago

So what happens when this acting enters the WWE sphere, a.k.a. some guy is willing to play hurt enough to be carted off, just to not have his team docked a timeout?

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

I know. It is not perfect. There is always some way for cheaters to figure out a way around the rules. Perhaps add a mandatory 1 game off, not a suspension, for safety's sake.

Even then a team could get a 3rd stringer out on the field for one play and then have him fall down. He would be the DF- designated flopper. "come on Timmy, fall down and take it for the team!"

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

13 years ago

#12

I like the way they do it in professional rugby: If someone goes down with an injury, the game continues as though nothing had happened. Medics rush out onto the field to examine and protect the player, while the action proceeds apace. No timeouts are lost and no advantage is gained. Of course, that means that while a player is being checked out, his team is playing 14-on-15, but overall, that seems fair to me. It's certainly a strong disincentive to faking.

I think this system is the best of all worlds and would translate well to American football.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

13 years ago

#13

That doesn’t take away its status as complete and utter bullshit. I also think that if they’re going to do it they should be a little less obvious about it. Finally, I am sorry you have to be a bears fan.

Originally Posted by: Silentio

Teams like the Bengals were doing that against the the Bills and Jim Kelly decades ago. I remember the linemen talking about "trick knees" and other things during interviews.

Everyone knew it was happening. The announcers even said, there is another "injury" to slow down the no huddle. They even showed a lineman getting up and I think it was Krumrie telling the other one to stay down. The announcers even said that is what they were doing.

They have done it for years, it was completely obvious.

Why is this an issue now? Nobody was fooled then and didn't care, why is this a revelation? Why is it even an issue?

If people were unaware that it happened they are so lacking in the powers of observation that I am surprised they can cross the street without getting hit by a buss.

Let them fake injuries, it won't slow Rodgers down.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

mi_keys
Senior Member

13 years ago

#14

I like where you're going Non, I would just be worried about part of the field being blocked off, especially if the injury happened down field. That's an issue you are not as likely to run into with no forward pass. What if you took the player off and didn't let the team replace them for a play? Yeah the defense could slow the offense down but playing a man down should be incentive enough to not cheat like the Giants just did.

Born and bred a cheesehead

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

13 years ago

#15

A similar thought occurred to me, but I think offenses could adapt pretty easily, just as they do when they are awarded a free play. They could simply line up more receivers on the other side of the field and either stack them downfield or have them do crossing patterns beyond the obstruction. I could see how it ultimately might favor offenses even more, especially since it wouldn't be a formation defenses were used to seeing on film.

Greg C.
Registered

13 years ago

#16

They have done it for years, it was completely obvious.

Why is this an issue now? Nobody was fooled then and didn't care, why is this a revelation? Why is it even an issue?

If people were unaware that it happened they are so lacking in the powers of observation that I am surprised they can cross the street without getting hit by a buss.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Well, you can count me as one of the blind and/or ignorant, because in all the years I've been watching football, this is not something I've noticed very often. I do see defensive players get injured while the opposing offense is in hurry-up mode, but I haven't noticed an increased amount of injuries at these times, and I can't tell if the injuries are real or fake. How are you able to tell the difference?

What made it different in the Giants game was the fact that it was obvious. That's why it's being questioned so much. I've never been satisfied with explanations (for any kind of behavior) that rely on the statement, "Everybody does it, so that makes it okay." If it's crappy behavior, it should be punished. Then maybe "everybody" (it's never everybody anyway) would stop doing it. In this case, unfortunately, I don't think there's a reliable way to enforce it. But I do think it was good for the league to at least put a warning out there.

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Greg C.
Registered

13 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Do you guys really think this is a viable solution? How do you think this would go over with the viewing public? Don't you think it would be maybe just a little bit controversial, not to mention just plain weird, for an offense to be running plays while a defender is lying on the ground injured? You can argue the pros and cons of it, but the reality is that it's not going to happen in a million years, because most fans would think it was unsportsmanlike and downright absurd.

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mi_keys
Senior Member

13 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: Greg C.

I certainly don't think this will ever happen and I'm sure Non is the same way. However, we personally would both prefer a system that deters what the Giants do, regardless of whether or not that will ever happen.

Born and bred a cheesehead

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