James Jones Agrees to new deal· Page 3

Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

I really don't see why. We drafted Cobb to replace Jones, at least partially. There's no way we're going to be able to have Jennings, Driver, Nelson, Jones, Cobb and Finley regularly on the field, like all of them should be.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

To bank on a combo type player coming into the league and making an impact is a high risk IMO.. Driver struggled with injuries last season and had to leave the Superbowl.. the biggest game of his career and reportedly it was worse than many let on. That is yet another risk.

IMO, signing Jones to a mid range type deal, three years, will protect yourself somewhat if he doesn't continue to develop.

And it allows us to continue to spread the field out with 4 very competent receivers and potentially more if Cobb is on an accelerated path.. most don't develop till years 2 to 3.. so 4 wides and Finley would give people fits.

Another reason would be that Jones is the most physical receiver we have and statistically one of our best post catch. If Finley goes down, Jones still gives us a physical element that the others don't.

Personally, I think this was our most important keep of our free agents.. with Jenkins maybe two.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Tezzy
Senior Member

13 years ago

#22

Why should a rookie be on the field? After all he's a rookie... gotta earn your way up...

He'll start as the return guy and the others will be a part of the big 5. What might be harder is splitting up time between Driver, Jones and Nelson... and keeping them all happy (because they won't be)... but gotta go with the hot hand...

Also does this mean less likely to resign Finley and/or Nelson next year?

Originally Posted by: beast

They split time last season and won the Super Bowl. Why are you assuming they won't be happy if they do it again the same exact way?

On top of every beard grows a man.
"The Bears are shell-shocked... and it's breaking my heart."

Greg C.
Registered

13 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

If Ted had drafted Cobb to replace Jones, he would not have re-signed Jones. If Cobb was drafted to replace anyone, it's Driver. This year, Cobb will replace Swain. There will be a bit of a log jam, with as many as five high quality WRs on the team, but Ted doesn't draft players because of what they can contribute as rookies, he drafts them for the long term. The interesting question now is whether they can re-sign Jordy Nelson after next season. But there's a lot of football to be played before then.

I'm glad to have Jones back. I hated the thought of him going to a division rival, or even a conference rival.

blank

all_about_da_packers
Senior Member

13 years ago

#24

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

I think someone like Cobb you'd prefer to play out of the slot rather than outside. Jones has the tools and body to be effective on the outside - and he has been, to be fair.

We do look pretty crowded at WR, but that can change in an instant. Like 93z said, Driver is coming off a serious injury, an year in which he was less than great, and frankly his age will catch up to him sooner rather than later. Then with Finley, he has been injured each of his last two seasons.

Cobb could turn out to be pretty damn awesome, but I think he'll need time to get there especially since the lockout has affected the rookies getting to learn the playbook. Jones, meanwhile, provides us a pretty good option at WR and is a damn fine insurance policy. I'd have preferred Jenkins be back ahead of Jones, but I'm pretty glad Jones came back. Can't wait to see a Packers' receivers vs. Eagles' secondary match-up.

The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.

beast
Select Member

13 years ago

#25

Another reason would be that Jones is the most physical receiver we have and statistically one of our best post catch. If Finley goes down, Jones still gives us a physical element that the others don't.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Hmmm you'd have to define physical for me to agree to that... Nelson IMO is the best blocking WR we have. But I think you mean physical route runner, which I would agree. Though I wonder why isn't Nelson a more physical route runner.

musccy
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#26

pack93z hit the nail on the head.

I see this as more of a move to cover for Driver and our depth.

No doubt if you have all 4, Finley, and Cobb HEALTHY, then there isn't much room, but we don't know what to expect from Driver coming off 2 major injuries last year and being 36 y.o, or what to expect from Cobb yet.

Jones can have mind-numbing lapses of focus, but can also be a tremendous possession receiver and make great catches (td vs. falcons in playoffs). This gives Cobb a year or two to develop as Driver winds down and gives the Pack the best depth at this position in the entire league.

Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#27

Originally Posted by: beast

Yes as a receiver...

Example A. ;)

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

beast
Select Member

13 years ago

#28

They split time last season and won the Super Bowl. Why are you assuming they won't be happy if they do it again the same exact way?

Originally Posted by: Tezzy

Because Jones has said he really wants to start and he's not happy about being the back-up (he even tried to sign with the Vikings for a starting spot...)

Why are you assuming they were happy last year? Driver had injures, Jones wasn't starting... don't know anything about Nelson being unhappy. But they might of been unhappy about splitting time last year as well...

Also Jones was at the Packers draft party when they drafted Nelson and it's reported he was shaking his head and softly asked "why"... that's been a while but I think it's clear they all would like more playing time on the field.. and less time splitting... of course they also want to win...

Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#29

IMO.. in the Packers system is there really a starting receiver past Jennings? They all had about the same percentage of targets from Rodgers, Driver, Jones and Nelson that is.. all 5 are interchangeable in the scheme.. and they all can make plays.

I think that starter label for Packers receivers these days are more myth and ego than fact. IMO.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

beast
Select Member

13 years ago

#30

Yes as a receiver...

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

I knew what you meant (or thought so and said it)... but as a blocker I'd say Nelson was the most physical. Also that pick happened in the preseason didn't it? How about one from a in season game? 👅

Also we might have a more physical receiver... and he's caught everything that has come his way...
burgers.. fries... and even a pass

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Mucky Tundra (7h) : Mahomes Magic baby! *cough*

TheKanataThrilla (7h) : KC the luckiest team in the league

Zero2Cool (11h) : Frigging host issues for site again

beast (11h) : For the first time in their long history, the Bears fire their head coach mid-season. Which comes after three very close in-division losses.

Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : At the game now. Kampman and Cullen Jenkins are here.

buckeyepackfan (29-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving Packer Fans! Gonna celebrate with some grilled Dolphin later!

buckeyepackfan (29-Nov) : Inactive 23 CB Jaire Alexander 56 LB Edgerrin Cooper 62 OL Jacob Monk 87 WR Romeo Doubs

dhazer (29-Nov) : Just a talking point, do we try and trade Jaire next year to get out from the contract as he can't stay healthy

Zero2Cool (28-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving! About to head to game.

wpr (28-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving

Martha Careful (28-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving Everybody...Go Packers!!!

Zero2Cool (28-Nov) : That is what a lot of people seem to think. Even though when he was on Giants, he was trash.

Martha Careful (27-Nov) : Brilliant move by Vikings!!! The signing provide great leverage in Darnold negotiations

Mucky Tundra (27-Nov) : Boo!

Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Packers have ruled out Jaire Alexander, Edgerrin Cooper, and Romeo Doubs for Thursday's game against the Dolphins.

Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Daniel Jones joins Vikings

Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Tomorrow high 32° and low 19°

beast (27-Nov) : Thanks Mucky!

Mucky Tundra (27-Nov) : beast, forecast is looking like 27-28 degrees at kickoff, slight chance of snow flurries

Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Oh? It wasn't on the injury report. That sucks, but it's what is best.

packerfanoutwest (26-Nov) : Doubs is out due to concussion

beast (26-Nov) : What does the weather look like?

Martha Careful (26-Nov) : You can wear long-johns mittens and a hat. We want Hill and their other skill guys FROZEN

Zero2Cool (26-Nov) : I'm not sure I hope for that. I'll be at the game.

Martha Careful (25-Nov) : I hope it is colder than a well-diggers ass on Thanksgiving night.

Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : doubt he wants to face the speedsters

beast (25-Nov) : Dolphins offense can be explosive... I wonder if we'll have Alexander back

Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : No Doubs could be issue Thursday

Mucky Tundra (25-Nov) : Bears. Santos. Blocked FG

Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Bears. Vikings. OT

Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Thems the breaks I guess

Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Two players out and Williams had an injury designation this week but Oladapo is a healthy scratch

Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Packers inactives vs 49ers: • CB Jaire Alexander • S Kitan Oladapo • LB Edgerrin Cooper • OL Jacob Monk

TheKanataThrilla (24-Nov) : Aaron Jones with a costly red zone fumble

Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : When we trade Malik for a 1st rounder, we'll need a new QB2.

packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : Report: Aaron Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not for the Jets

beast (23-Nov) : That's what I told the Police officer about my speed when he pulled me over

packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal

packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites

Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?

packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?

Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”

beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout

beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.

beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?

beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

30 - 17

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM

Vikings

Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM

BEARS