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14 years ago

I am sure it will all work out but I have some reservations about starting Mc Donald at LG. It doesn’t make sense to me to start a second year player who is from a Division II team on OL when he has to defend Rodgers from the likes of Suh and others. Especially when he didn’t even play a down last year and didn't get the OTA this year. Maybe in another year.

I originally thought they may slid Sherrod in there for the year before moving him on to LT. But if he does not have the build of a guard and is not physically strong enough it doesn’t matter how smart he is or what his techniques are. They will man handle him and push him back into AR.

Schlauderaff and Dominguez won’t be the answer either. They just don’t have the experience to line up there game in and game out. And they too didn’t get the chance to learn in the OTA’s.

By default it seems it will be Lang filling the gap. This may not be such a bad thing anyway.

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Schauderaff may surprise some people. He was a 4 year starter at a big college program. He's played in some big games and made 4 All American teams last year. I don't see how he'd have significantly less experience than McDonald.

Don't overlook this kid, because he might be Ted's latest gem.
Stevetarded
14 years ago

I am sure it will all work out but I have some reservations about starting Mc Donald at LG. It doesn’t make sense to me to start a second year player who is from a Division II team on OL when he has to defend Rodgers from the likes of Suh and others. Especially when he didn’t even play a down last year and didn't get the OTA this year. Maybe in another year.

I originally thought they may slid Sherrod in there for the year before moving him on to LT. But if he does not have the build of a guard and is not physically strong enough it doesn’t matter how smart he is or what his techniques are. They will man handle him and push him back into AR.

Schlauderaff and Dominguez won’t be the answer either. They just don’t have the experience to line up there game in and game out. And they too didn’t get the chance to learn in the OTA’s.

By default it seems it will be Lang filling the gap. This may not be such a bad thing anyway.

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Where they came from and their experience really doesn't mean anything. If the player can play then he will play. If McDonald is better than Lang I don't want to start Lang just because he's been here for a while. Sam Shields wasn't covering the NFLs #5 WR (receiving yards) in the Superbowl because of his experience, he did it because he's better than Pat Lee and Jarrett Bush despite their experience.
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14 years ago

Schauderaff may surprise some people. He was a 4 year starter at a big college program. He's played in some big games and made 4 All American teams last year. I don't see how he'd have significantly less experience than McDonald.

Don't overlook this kid, because he might be Ted's latest gem.

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Yeah when I said experience I meant Packer experience. Their formations, their signals/audibles, their assignments.
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Where they came from and their experience really doesn't mean anything. If the player can play then he will play. If McDonald is better than Lang I don't want to start Lang just because he's been here for a while. Sam Shields wasn't covering the NFLs #5 WR (receiving yards) in the Superbowl because of his experience, he did it because he's better than Pat Lee and Jarrett Bush despite their experience.

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I understand that. I don't mean to imply just because a guy has hung around 1265 Lombardi Avenue for a longer period of time he is going to get the job. I am saying that Lang may well get the starting nod in the early part of the season because McDonald or others may still have something to learn that they didn't acquire while in college.
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14 years ago

I understand that. I don't mean to imply just because a guy has hung around 1265 Lombardi Avenue for a longer period of time he is going to get the job. I am saying that Lang may well get the starting nod in the early part of the season because McDonald or others may still have something to learn that they didn't acquire while in college.

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I think Lang has to be the favorite at the moment but don't forget McDonald isn't some guy they just picked up. He did make the 53 man roster out of training camp last year so he's been around.
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I think Lang has to be the favorite at the moment but don't forget McDonald isn't some guy they just picked up. He did make the 53 man roster out of training camp last year so he's been around.

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Yes McDonald was on the team last year. And he will be on the team again this year. But missing out on the OTAs has to hurt his development at least a little bit.
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14 years ago

Yes McDonald was on the team last year. And he will be on the team again this year. But missing out on the OTAs has to hurt his development at least a little bit.

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Yeah but isn't that true for all guys with less than 3 years under their belt? If so it effect all the Packers OL other than Clifton, Wells and Sitton.

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Yeah but isn't that true for all guys with less than 3 years under their belt? If so it effect all the Packers OL other than Clifton, Wells and Sitton.

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No doubt but Lang is probably a little further down the path than McDonald, etal. Thus he may well start the year at LG. I don't know if he will be when they play in Indy.
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14 years ago
Considering Breno Giacomini also made the 53-man roster a few years running, I am not sure how much stock we can put in that accomplishment. 😳
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maybe it doesn't belong here but since we have been talking about LG... 


His memory is hazy. Derek Sherrod can't exactly remember the last time he lined up at offensive guard. Throughout college at Mississippi State he was a tackle. Every game, no questions asked.

So for a few moments, he was stumped.

"Maybe I played (guard) back in high school a little bit," Sherrod said.

Two practices in, he's brushing away the cobwebs. With Daryn Colledge gone to the Arizona Cardinals, left guard is one of the few starting positions up for grabs. Sherrod was drafted in the first round as a potential heir to Chad Clifton. But Saturday and Sunday he has worked with the first team at guard.

Sherrod has a left tackle's physique. Known as a nimble pass blocker in college, he's 6-foot-5, 320 pounds. In any pickup basketball game, he's the first overall pick. Though the tackle-to-guard shift is certainly nothing new in Green Bay, it could be quite an adjustment. Sherrod played 49 games (47 starts) on the outside with Mississippi State. With a shrug, Sherrod says it's no big deal.

"It's not too much of a difference going from tackle," said Sherrod, who trained with the Mississippi State football team all off-season. "You have to know all the positions anyways. It's just a little bit different with technique."

Here in Green Bay, coach Mike McCarthy said it's easier to play on the outside than the inside. The closer linemen are to the football, the more duties they have. Different players - notably T.J. Lang and Nick McDonald - will be rotated into the left guard spot through camp. Whoever excels will see more reps at practice. For now, Sherrod has the hot hand.

"I thought (Sherrod) did OK with this being his first time out there playing guard," McCarthy said. "There's a lot of information and a lot of communication going on. It's going to take some time and it's going to take some reps."

When the Packers drafted him, Sherrod had no clue the team would move him to guard. He was able to talk to coaches briefly after the draft when the lockout was lifted but not about the game plan. Saturday's audition - albeit in helmets - was a total surprise. For now, he has no preference. The biggest difference is working in tandem with the center each play.

Sherrod doesn't feel too uncomfortable yet.

"It shouldn't be too much of a transition, maybe alternating your stance a little bit," Sherrod said. "In tackle, you're in a two-point and a three-point stance. At guard, you're always in a three-point."

Lang, the de facto veteran in this left-guard derby, was not surprised that coaches gave Sherrod the nod first. Rookies need reps, he says. No need to read too much into anything.

A utility player at both guard and tackle the last two seasons, Lang has been inconsistent. This could be a make-or-break camp for him. With McDonald sitting in the next locker, his nose buried in a playbook, Lang promised the battle will be a long one.

"The depth chart is something we can't control," he said. "We'll just go where they want us to go and try to do our best when we get the opportunity. It's a competition. Nobody will win in the first day or two."


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