Wow, elite for just one season? I reckon we're talking about 2003?
That'd make AP elite for just 1, maybe 2 seasons. That'd make LDT an "ok" RB, with 2 elite showings in his entire career....
If Green had not started off so slow in Seattle, running for about 300 yards on just 60 carries (implying he had it, but didn't get the opportunity), had he not been injured in that horrible 2005 season and had he not broken down the moment he hit 30, had he been on a team that won the SB, he would've been in the talks for the HoF.
Based on his play alone, he still should be, he just doesn't have the stats to back it up now with 9000 rushing yards, 3000 receiving and 75 TDs.
And the whole fumble thing doesn't really help, either.
Originally Posted by: Rockmolder
Yeah, and if I didn't give my last dollar to some stupid homeless chum, I could have had ice cream last night.
I don't like "ifs." Ifs are excuses.
I know you're being sarcastic, but others aren't.
Green only dominated one year. For Hall of Fame candidacy, you compare the candidate to his peers (thus is why Art Monk should have never gotten in). Let's make some comparisons here.
For rushing yards, he was only in the top 10 twice in his career. In 2001, he was #4. In 2003, he was #2.
For rushing TDs, he was 9th in 2000, 8th in 2001, 2nd in 2003.
For combined rushing/receiving TDs, he was 9th in 2000, 7th in 2001, and 2nd in 2003.
In his career for fantasy, he was only in the top 10 among RBs 3 times. In 2000 he was 5th, in 2001 he was 5th, and 2003 he was 3rd.
I'm not seeing a single #1 here. Hey, I really like the guy and I want my Packers to dominate everyone else, but facts are facts. Ahman Green was a solid RB, consistently good, and elite one year. That's awesome and worthy of Packers' Hall of Fame, but not worthy of the NFL Hall of Fame.
The other 4 men are in the NFL Hall of Fame. Watch the video. They did things that put them in the NFL Hall of Fame, like SHATTERING records for instance. Paul Horning's pts record was only broken recently and that's ONLY because we play 16 games now.
Jim Taylor led the league in rushing one year and was #2 four years. He was only #2 because of that Jim Brown guy. Dammit. Why did Jim Brown have to play at the same time as Jim Taylor? Jim Taylor led the NFL in TDs TWICE and set a rushing TD record that lasted for something like 20 years.
I don't remember the video as I watched it yesterday, but one of the guys on the list who was under Green SAVED THE GREEN BAY PACKERS FRANCHISE. Yes, there most likely would be no Green Bay Packers today if it wasn't for that guy. How in the world is Green ahead of that guy? He set records that lasted for years.
The other guy set records that lasted for over a decade after he retired, and Green is ahead of him in that list.
With all due respect for Ahman Green, I like the guy. But his has nothing to do with liking someone. Facts are facts. Green isn't worthy to be ranked ahead of Hall of Famers, even if we won 2 SBs with him. He simply did not dominate his position the way the other guys did.
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