Wade
  • Wade
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14 years ago
126 million
x 400
50.4 bilion.

So we tax them at 100 percent. This will cover the multi-trillion dollar deficits our fair elected officials run how?

I simply don't understand the idea that we should take money away from those who have shown themselves able to stay within their means and put it in the re-distributing hands of people who have shown, over and over again, that they can't?
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DakotaT
14 years ago

126 million
x 400
50.4 bilion.

So we tax them at 100 percent. This will cover the multi-trillion dollar deficits our fair elected officials run how?

I simply don't understand the idea that we should take money away from those who have shown themselves able to stay within their means and put it in the re-distributing hands of people who have shown, over and over again, that they can't?

"Wade" wrote:



You need to quit worrying about the numbers so much and start thinking about fairness. I do not subscribe to the thinking that all the sins in the past should be forgotton and let's just all get along. Maybe vengeance is for the Lord, but what if we are on our own?
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Wade
  • Wade
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14 years ago

126 million
x 400
50.4 bilion.

So we tax them at 100 percent. This will cover the multi-trillion dollar deficits our fair elected officials run how?

I simply don't understand the idea that we should take money away from those who have shown themselves able to stay within their means and put it in the re-distributing hands of people who have shown, over and over again, that they can't?

"DakotaT" wrote:



You need to quit worrying about the numbers so much and start thinking about fairness. I do not subscribe to the thinking that all the sins in the past should be forgotton and let's just all get along. Maybe vengeance is for the Lord, but what if we are on our own?

"Wade" wrote:



Sorry, no. To my mind people need to realize that you can't solve trillion dollar problems with billion dollar solutions. And that's what any "solve it by taxing the rich more" solution proposes.

And re: "fair" ...

Please, define "fair." And define it in a way that can't be reduced to "fair is what I and the people who agree with me say is fair."

As I tell my students every semester, "fair" is not an economic standard. It may be important, but economics says nothing particularly insightful about it. Fair is for priests and ethicists and parents. Its not a valid basis for economic decisions. Because there is no way to get beyond "fair is what I think is fair".

To which I would personally add, "Especially when you're making decisions with other people's money."
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Wade
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14 years ago
Oh yes, and re: your last question? We're not on our own. So the issue doesn't arise.

:)
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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DakotaT
14 years ago
Well Wade, since 5% of the people control 90% of the wealth in this country, I would say there are some things that have happened in our history that have tipped the scales in the direction of the 5%, but how dare I question these things?

I'm all for guillotine justice. I think those fed up peasants in France should be role models to us all.

In order to solve our ever growing class problems, we first have to fix corruption and then you economist can take over and fix the financial. But since none of that will happen ever, we'll just keep pushing everything into the future.
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Wade
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14 years ago
Argh....the last thing you want is economists deciding things. Ick ick ick.

And you're right about the pushing everything into the future, too.

You just have a wee bit too much faith in "political solutions" to help solve the problems. That's all.

Wouldn't be surprised if it took a peasant revolt either. (Indeed, as Formo will tell you, that's what the tea party movement was all about originally.)
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DakotaT
14 years ago

Wouldn't be surprised if it took a peasant revolt either. (Indeed, as Formo will tell you, that's what the tea party movement was all about originally.)

"Wade" wrote:



Tea baggers don't even understand their revolt. We need to get out of the debt that W started and we're blaming in all on Obama.
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Formo
14 years ago

Wouldn't be surprised if it took a peasant revolt either. (Indeed, as Formo will tell you, that's what the tea party movement was all about originally.)

"DakotaT" wrote:



Tea baggers don't even understand their revolt.

"Wade" wrote:



We don't? Really? You are showing me your cards man, and I'mma be honest with ya because I like you (kinda), they suck.

We need to get out of the debt that W started and we're blaming in all on Obama.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Well, you got that right. Yeah Dubya started the debt. But the Big O is making it worse.

I heard a great man say once, "I believe that taxing the nation to prosperity is as effective as standing in a bucket and trying to pick it up by the handle."
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Speaking of the debt... I wonder how hard it is to stop an avalanche that someone started prior to you being put in charge of halting it?
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DakotaT
14 years ago

Speaking of the debt... I wonder how hard it is to stop an avalanche that someone started prior to you being put in charge of halting it?

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About as easy as viewing a Lombardi trophy in Minneapolis.

And Formo, you don't like me, you love me like a brother because I antagonize you like one.
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