Greg C.
14 years ago

I think Collins and Burnett are the most talented Safeties the Packers have... but I think there is a minor problem... they're both FS... and ether one would be playing out of position at SS.

So I'm glad to have a true SS locked up on the roster now with Peprah and he didn't make mistakes. Collins and Burnett were both making the problem of over pursuing/over running guys and giving them a great cut back lane early in the season Burnett was the worse at it... it looked like he didn't want to attack guys head on but at an angle. Just something that needs to be fixed up... but he was a rookie with a lot of talent so he should get the time to fix it up...

"beast" wrote:



Nicely said. I think Peprah was better than Burnett. He brought toughness to the secondary, just as Desmond Bishop brought a little more toughness to the linebacking corps. Players like this don't get a lot of glory, but they free up the playmakers to do their thing.
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14 years ago
I saw Peprah get toasted a few times, where a capable QB would have had 6 points; but for the most part Charlie is a solid, assignment sure safety who brings his lunch pail every day. Championship teams are full of players like these.
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14 years ago
Before training camp I thought he didn't stand a chance of making the final roster.

Injuries gave him a chance to play and he played well.
Good players stay and those that do not play well aren't kept and they find work elsewhere.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

I think Collins and Burnett are the most talented Safeties the Packers have... but I think there is a minor problem... they're both FS... and ether one would be playing out of position at SS.

So I'm glad to have a true SS locked up on the roster now with Peprah and he didn't make mistakes. Collins and Burnett were both making the problem of over pursuing/over running guys and giving them a great cut back lane early in the season Burnett was the worse at it... it looked like he didn't want to attack guys head on but at an angle. Just something that needs to be fixed up... but he was a rookie with a lot of talent so he should get the time to fix it up...

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Collins is elite as a FS. I'd keep him there and let's not forget that Woody can play either Safety position in a pinch.

We're in a good situation right now at S.
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14 years ago

I think Collins and Burnett are the most talented Safeties the Packers have... but I think there is a minor problem... they're both FS... and ether one would be playing out of position at SS.

So I'm glad to have a true SS locked up on the roster now with Peprah and he didn't make mistakes. Collins and Burnett were both making the problem of over pursuing/over running guys and giving them a great cut back lane early in the season Burnett was the worse at it... it looked like he didn't want to attack guys head on but at an angle. Just something that needs to be fixed up... but he was a rookie with a lot of talent so he should get the time to fix it up...

"Greg C." wrote:



Nicely said. I think Peprah was better than Burnett.

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Agreed. I think the two biggest upgrades were Bishop over Barnett and Peprah over Burnett. That was when the defense finally started clicking. As crazy as it sounds, that injury might have really helped Burnett IMO. It gave him time to watch and to learn the playbook. From watching him early in the season, he frankly looked lost. I saw numerous plays where Collins had to tell him where to line up and play. Perhaps, next year we will see his physicality take over, since he won't be thinking so much. Since, it has been said, that a player can't let his natural physical talent take over, until he stops thinking.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Head to Head, I believe Burnett will top Peprah. I think he has a higher ceiling. As a Rookie this year comparing him to Peprah, yes, Peprah was better at tackling, but I'd be inclined to say Burnett topped him in ball location.
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earthquake
14 years ago
I too am a bit worried about having two FS type players, so I'm really happy with the Peprah signing.
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beast
14 years ago

I'd keep him there and let's not forget that Woody can play either Safety position in a pinch.

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Honestly I hated watching Woodson play SS when he did last year. Don't get me wrong he did his job and did it well, but it was like playing to his weaknesses instead of his strengths, he got the job done, I don't think it looked pretty and there are much better ways to use him.

Also Woodson usually doesn't tackle guys the normal way... he finds the least physical way to do, which normally I don't like because it normally means your gonna miss more tackles... but it's like Woodson knows the secret areas to hit and grab onto and almost always gets the tackle... but normally he goes very low or very high... getting a knee or foot, or jumping on the guys shoulder pads and using his weight, balance and spining to knock the other guy off his balance.

For me, this year Woodson is a great nickel CB. Wasn't great at other things. I'd want to keep him at CB. Also Shields is doing fine for a rookie but they're also giving him more help with Collins I think.
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beast
14 years ago

Head to Head, I believe Burnett will top Peprah. I think he has a higher ceiling. As a Rookie this year comparing him to Peprah, yes, Peprah was better at tackling, but I'd be inclined to say Burnett topped him in ball location.

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When it came to ball location Burnett might of topped the whole team...

Part of it is because he plays Safety which gives him more room to sit and watch the QB, while the other guys have to react faster playing closer to the line, the other part was he was just darn good at it...

Like I said I think he's a FS... and I think the Packers normally switch up their S some and ask them to play some FS and some SS but they did use Collins at SS in some packages.

I remember one where they had the nickel package in so 2-4-5 ... but the OLBers moved up to the DL and Collins moved up to the ILBers giving it a 4-3 look...

that was before Burnett got injured.
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