Formo
14 years ago

Seems like the Williams wall will have to serve their 4 game suspension this year. Pat will probably retire. But that will still leave a giant hole next to the giant hole Edwards is going to leave.

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lol Wait, wasn't it you Packer fans that was exclaiming how much of a wasted space Edwards was? Now he's going to leave a giant hole if he isn't resigned?

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DakotaT
14 years ago

? Because once a team tags a player they aren't allowed to sign any other soon-to-be free agent?

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No, it means they can't force them to stay in Minnesota. Edwards and Rice just got their "get out of jail free" cards so to speak. You can only tag one guy. Rice, Edwards and Greenway should have all been retained already, because you don't let your young talent get into the final year of their contracts. Don't you ever pay attention to how Uncle Ted operates? Tramon and Bishop were already resigned. The only guys on our team anybody is worrying about is Jenkins and Colledge and most of us are on the fence about it because their replacements are already on the roster.

The Vikings choose to blow money on free agents like Allen, Berrian, Favre, M. Williams instead of shoring up their roster through the draft and young talent. They have a tumultuous offseason ahead of them, and I wish you luck. Our teams have a tremendous difference in how they go about business.
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Formo
14 years ago

? Because once a team tags a player they aren't allowed to sign any other soon-to-be free agent?

"DakotaT" wrote:



No, it means they can't force them to stay in Minnesota. Edwards and Rice just got their "get out of jail free" cards so to speak. You can only tag one guy. Rice, Edwards and Greenway should have all been retained already, because you don't let your young talent get into the final year of their contracts. Don't you ever pay attention to how Uncle Ted operates? Tramon and Bishop were already resigned. The only guys on our team anybody is worrying about is Jenkins and Colledge and most of us are on the fence about it because their replacements are already on the roster.

The Vikings choose to blow money on free agents like Allen, Berrian, Favre, M. Williams instead of shoring up their roster through the draft and young talent. They have a tumultuous offseason ahead of them, and I wish you luck. Our teams have a tremendous difference in how they go about business.

"Formo" wrote:



Actually, they chose to hold off on resigning those guys early for extenuating circumstances.. Like Rice and his history of getting hurt (only one full year healthy), and with the lack of a CBA in place. They are merely playing the wait and see approach. You know, as are most other teams. Sidney isn't really worth the $10 million he'd get paid if they tagged him, what with the questions surrounding his hip and his injury potential. Chadly, on the other hand, is.

I laugh at the notion that says the Vikings haven't built their roster via the draft... Uhh.. DURRRR.. K-Williams, Cedric Griffen, Sidney Rice, Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, McKinney, Sullivan, Edwards, Chad Greenway, EJ Henderson, Chris Cook, Toby Gerhart, Guion, Robison, Sanford, Asher Allen, Brinkley, Erin Henderson, Tyrell Johnson, Loadholdt, Joe Webb. These are guys that have either significant play time or have started that I can think of off the top of my head that have been drafted.
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porky88
14 years ago
Vikings have drafted well, but where they failed is at not finding a young QB to develop. The difference between the Packers and Vikings is Aaron Rodgers. Had the Vikes not when after Favre and focused on hitting on a young QB, they would be an outstanding shape. Beyond QB, they have drafted quite well, but not good as the Packers. I would put them in the top half of the league though.

Usually I restrain myself from giving predictions this early, but there is something I think that nobody else apparently believes.

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Those are the two-playoff teams from the North in 2011. Maybe a third gets in this year as well, but right now, I like the Lions to make it. I'm not kidding!
DakotaT
14 years ago

I laugh at the notion that says the Vikings haven't built their roster via the draft... Uhh.. DURRRR.. K-Williams, Cedric Griffen, Sidney Rice, Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, McKinney, Sullivan, Edwards, Chad Greenway, EJ Henderson, Chris Cook, Toby Gerhart, Guion, Robison, Sanford, Asher Allen, Brinkley, Erin Henderson, Tyrell Johnson, Loadholdt, Joe Webb. These are guys that have either significant play time or have started that I can think of off the top of my head that have been drafted.

"Formo" wrote:



The guys in bold are decent players and they're pretty much all top draft choices except Sidney Rice and Sullivan. The rest of them wouldn't even make our roster. The Vikings have hardly "done a good job" in the draft. You have just as many players acquired via free agency: Hutchinson, Winfield, Allen, Fat Pat, Favre, Medieu Williams, Bernard Berrian. See my point, I'll refrain from the "uh duh" stuff.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
I don't remember, but wasn't the Adrian Peterson pick some what risky? I think he's a dumbass who hurt himself doing a celebration type jump into the end zone.
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DakotaT
14 years ago
I think he had a broken collar bone, which is kind of a tough injury for a running back. Hitting a home run with a top ten draft pick is not an example of good drafting. Getting a Donald Driver in the seventh round is.
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14 years ago

I think he had a broken collar bone, which is kind of a tough injury for a running back. Hitting a home run with a top ten draft pick is not an example of good drafting. Getting a Donald Driver in the seventh round is.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Oh comon now. DD would have been a HR in any round. :thumbleft:

While I say it in jest as I am typing I am thinking he would have been a HR in any round. Next year when he breaks the record for most yards by a Packer receiver will validate it. Even a first round draft pick and HOF candidate may not set a teams receiving record for receptions or yards. It all depends on the circumstances.
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mi_keys
14 years ago

I think he had a broken collar bone, which is kind of a tough injury for a running back. Hitting a home run with a top ten draft pick is not an example of good drafting. Getting a Donald Driver in the seventh round is.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Yeah Peterson broke his collarbone diving into the end zone in celebration during his Junior year. He also missed significant time his Sophomore year with a high ankle sprain.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
I think I will withhold my predictions on next season more so than the average season.

With the CBA influx, too many of the elements of next season rosters are even more in the unknown state. Especially with RFA tenure and Franchise tags being targets in the CBA talks.

A Rookie cap will also impact the draft greatly, as the top 5 picks will more than likely have some trade value returned to them if the salaries of those picked becomes realistic again. If that is the case, it becomes a turkey shoot so to speak with trading blue/ red and white chip players being included in deals with teams looking for the next better than sliced bread player sitting on top of the draft boards.

That could have dramatic impacts on the roster landscapes come August.

So like I said.. I will withhold my guesses until some of these gray areas are colored in with more definition.


Now with that.. keep twisting Formo's nipples with the rebuilding talk. šŸ˜‰
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