2011-2012 NFC Predictions· Page 4

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

Seems like the Williams wall will have to serve their 4 game suspension this year. Pat will probably retire. But that will still leave a giant hole next to the giant hole Edwards is going to leave.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:

lol Wait, wasn't it you Packer fans that was exclaiming how much of a wasted space Edwards was? Now he's going to leave a giant hole if he isn't resigned?

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DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#32

? Because once a team tags a player they aren't allowed to sign any other soon-to-be free agent?

"Formo" wrote:

No, it means they can't force them to stay in Minnesota. Edwards and Rice just got their "get out of jail free" cards so to speak. You can only tag one guy. Rice, Edwards and Greenway should have all been retained already, because you don't let your young talent get into the final year of their contracts. Don't you ever pay attention to how Uncle Ted operates? Tramon and Bishop were already resigned. The only guys on our team anybody is worrying about is Jenkins and Colledge and most of us are on the fence about it because their replacements are already on the roster.

The Vikings choose to blow money on free agents like Allen, Berrian, Favre, M. Williams instead of shoring up their roster through the draft and young talent. They have a tumultuous offseason ahead of them, and I wish you luck. Our teams have a tremendous difference in how they go about business.

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#33

? Because once a team tags a player they aren't allowed to sign any other soon-to-be free agent?

"DakotaT" wrote:

"Formo" wrote:

Actually, they chose to hold off on resigning those guys early for extenuating circumstances.. Like Rice and his history of getting hurt (only one full year healthy), and with the lack of a CBA in place. They are merely playing the wait and see approach. You know, as are most other teams. Sidney isn't really worth the $10 million he'd get paid if they tagged him, what with the questions surrounding his hip and his injury potential. Chadly, on the other hand, is.

I laugh at the notion that says the Vikings haven't built their roster via the draft... Uhh.. DURRRR.. K-Williams, Cedric Griffen, Sidney Rice, Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, McKinney, Sullivan, Edwards, Chad Greenway, EJ Henderson, Chris Cook, Toby Gerhart, Guion, Robison, Sanford, Asher Allen, Brinkley, Erin Henderson, Tyrell Johnson, Loadholdt, Joe Webb. These are guys that have either significant play time or have started that I can think of off the top of my head that have been drafted.

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porky88
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#34

Vikings have drafted well, but where they failed is at not finding a young QB to develop. The difference between the Packers and Vikings is Aaron Rodgers. Had the Vikes not when after Favre and focused on hitting on a young QB, they would be an outstanding shape. Beyond QB, they have drafted quite well, but not good as the Packers. I would put them in the top half of the league though.

Usually I restrain myself from giving predictions this early, but there is something I think that nobody else apparently believes.

NFC North
1. Packers
2. Lions

Those are the two-playoff teams from the North in 2011. Maybe a third gets in this year as well, but right now, I like the Lions to make it. I'm not kidding!

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DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#35

I laugh at the notion that says the Vikings haven't built their roster via the draft... Uhh.. DURRRR.. K-Williams, Cedric Griffen, Sidney Rice, Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, McKinney, Sullivan, Edwards, Chad Greenway, EJ Henderson, Chris Cook, Toby Gerhart, Guion, Robison, Sanford, Asher Allen, Brinkley, Erin Henderson, Tyrell Johnson, Loadholdt, Joe Webb. These are guys that have either significant play time or have started that I can think of off the top of my head that have been drafted.

"Formo" wrote:

The guys in bold are decent players and they're pretty much all top draft choices except Sidney Rice and Sullivan. The rest of them wouldn't even make our roster. The Vikings have hardly "done a good job" in the draft. You have just as many players acquired via free agency: Hutchinson, Winfield, Allen, Fat Pat, Favre, Medieu Williams, Bernard Berrian. See my point, I'll refrain from the "uh duh" stuff.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#36

I don't remember, but wasn't the Adrian Peterson pick some what risky? I think he's a dumbass who hurt himself doing a celebration type jump into the end zone.

DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#37

I think he had a broken collar bone, which is kind of a tough injury for a running back. Hitting a home run with a top ten draft pick is not an example of good drafting. Getting a Donald Driver in the seventh round is.

wpr
Preferred Member

13 years ago

#38

"DakotaT" wrote:

Oh comon now. DD would have been a HR in any round. :thumbleft:

While I say it in jest as I am typing I am thinking he would have been a HR in any round. Next year when he breaks the record for most yards by a Packer receiver will validate it. Even a first round draft pick and HOF candidate may not set a teams receiving record for receptions or yards. It all depends on the circumstances.

mi_keys
Senior Member

13 years ago

#39

"DakotaT" wrote:

Yeah Peterson broke his collarbone diving into the end zone in celebration during his Junior year. He also missed significant time his Sophomore year with a high ankle sprain.

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Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#40

I think I will withhold my predictions on next season more so than the average season.

With the CBA influx, too many of the elements of next season rosters are even more in the unknown state. Especially with RFA tenure and Franchise tags being targets in the CBA talks.

A Rookie cap will also impact the draft greatly, as the top 5 picks will more than likely have some trade value returned to them if the salaries of those picked becomes realistic again. If that is the case, it becomes a turkey shoot so to speak with trading blue/ red and white chip players being included in deals with teams looking for the next better than sliced bread player sitting on top of the draft boards.

That could have dramatic impacts on the roster landscapes come August.

So like I said.. I will withhold my guesses until some of these gray areas are colored in with more definition.

Now with that.. keep twisting Formo's nipples with the rebuilding talk. 😉

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beast (19h) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won

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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???

Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games

beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality

beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread

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