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Rockmolder
13 years ago

Ridiculous that Tramon isn't in that picture. He keeps getting snubbed when talking about what makes the Packers great. He's our best defensive player and still a young player.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I disagree on the best player on the defense statement, but I do think he'd be a better pick than Jermichael Finley.
RaiderPride
13 years ago

Ridiculous that Tramon isn't in that picture. He keeps getting snubbed when talking about what makes the Packers great. He's our best defensive player and still a young player.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Tramond just tweeted he feels dis respected for not being in that shot.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
Finley will be part of that dynasty. He'll only miss the first SB of it. Kind of how people forget the Niners won their 1st 2 without Jerry Rice.
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all_about_da_packers
13 years ago

Anyone have the full article?

"wils0646" wrote:




I'd rather not post it all, because I'd rather encourage others to subscribe to Packers Insiders on JSOnline - McGinn posts some excellent articles, especially leading up to and right after the draft.

I'll give you a somewhat detailed summary:

- McGinn does a little bit of a roster analysis, coming to the conclusion that outside of KR there is no really big void that Ted needs to fill on this team. Suggests that if Newhouse progresses from year 1 to year 2 like some other Packers have, they will be set at Tackle. Says Bulaga is young (21) and has not had any terrible game.

- Says Ted has versatility going into this draft. Believes one of Hawk / Barnett must be let go (released, trade, or otherwise) and suggests Ted may have the resources to trade up if there is a player still there he really likes. Also, McGinn is quite assertive in saying this is the draft in which Ted will find a bookend opposite Mathews.

- Compares this Packers team to the one during 96. Suggests this team is built to sustain success longer, with the offensive centerpiece (Rodgers) and defensive centerpiece (Mathews) both being so young. Further, says that if Thompson is around as GM for some time, that should ensure Green Bay gets some talented players through the draft.

- Then compares this Packers team to the Cowboys of the 90s. Suggests this team can be dominant like that team. Free agency might lead to some loss in talented back-up players, though, which can be overcome with solid drafting and developing. Suggests the duo of McCarthy / Thompson has more chemistry and Johnson / Jones, which bodes well for sustained success.

- Says this team's core is young, and very talented. Says that players like Finley will be extra motivated for success.

- Tells how last year, after the Arizona loss, a scout from another team in the playoffs came up and told Ted his team (Packers) was the most talented team in the playoffs. Further says that McCarthy will use certain things for motivation, even if Packers win it all next year (like, for example, not being NFC North Champions).

- Ends by saying the Packers have the pieces (players) and coaches to go on a very successful run. (note: this is not to say that the Packers will, but rather they can)
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Rockmolder
13 years ago

Says Ted has versatility going into this draft. Believes one of Hawk / Barnett must be let go (released, trade, or otherwise) and suggests Ted may have the resources to trade up if there is a player still there he really likes. Also, McGinn is quite assertive in saying this is the draft in which Ted will find a bookend opposite Mathews.



If Ted manages to, somehow, draft Von Miller, I will start the official Ted Thompson fanclub. We'll bring him all the Mountain Dew and women he'll want.
zombieslayer
13 years ago




I'd rather not post it all, because I'd rather encourage others to subscribe to Packers Insiders on JSOnline - McGinn posts some excellent articles, especially leading up to and right after the draft.

I'll give you a somewhat detailed summary:

- McGinn does a little bit of a roster analysis, coming to the conclusion that outside of KR there is no really big void that Ted needs to fill on this team. Suggests that if Newhouse progresses from year 1 to year 2 like some other Packers have, they will be set at Tackle. Says Bulaga is young (21) and has not had any terrible game.

- Says Ted has versatility going into this draft. Believes one of Hawk / Barnett must be let go (released, trade, or otherwise) and suggests Ted may have the resources to trade up if there is a player still there he really likes. Also, McGinn is quite assertive in saying this is the draft in which Ted will find a bookend opposite Mathews.

- Compares this Packers team to the one during 96. Suggests this team is built to sustain success longer, with the offensive centerpiece (Rodgers) and defensive centerpiece (Mathews) both being so young. Further, says that if Thompson is around as GM for some time, that should ensure Green Bay gets some talented players through the draft.

- Then compares this Packers team to the Cowboys of the 90s. Suggests this team can be dominant like that team. Free agency might lead to some loss in talented back-up players, though, which can be overcome with solid drafting and developing. Suggests the duo of McCarthy / Thompson has more chemistry and Johnson / Jones, which bodes well for sustained success.

- Says this team's core is young, and very talented. Says that players like Finley will be extra motivated for success.

- Tells how last year, after the Arizona loss, a scout from another team in the playoffs came up and told Ted his team (Packers) was the most talented team in the playoffs. Further says that McCarthy will use certain things for motivation, even if Packers win it all next year (like, for example, not being NFC North Champions).

- Ends by saying the Packers have the pieces (players) and coaches to go on a very successful run. (note: this is not to say that the Packers will, but rather they can)

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Thanks AADP for the summary. A few comments...

The OL can use some work. Buluga is not enough and I'm not holding my breath with Newhouse. If he works out, awesome. But what I said earlier, another reason why Aaron's the best QB in the NFL, like Ben R, he can still be outstanding with or without an OL. Those 2 may be the only QBs in the NFL you can say that with a straight face.

I'd take Hawk over Barnett. Used to love Nick but now I think he's a mismatch for our system. Hawk on the other hand is underrated and underappreciated by Packers fans. He makes lots of tackles. That's what he's supposed to do. Plus, check out how many games he's missed in his career. A very small number.

The 96 Packers team should have had more SBs but 2 weird things happened in the 90s - the Cows were the dominant team that knocked us out for the first half of the 90s, then the Broncos' small OL killed us.

There are no equivalents to the 90s Cows and the '97 Broncos today. That leaves it open for us to be the dynasty. The Patriots are on decline and have been now for years. The Falcons are quite good but I don't think you can put Matt Ryan in the same sentence as Aaron. The Steelers may be our biggest competitors. The Saints I don't think can do it with their average D. They pulled it off one year, but I don't see them doing it again. da Bears had their shot this year and fell short. The Vikings are done.

MM/TT do have more chemistry than Jones/Johnson. As much as I disliked the Cows, I've always respected Johnson and hated Jones. Jones is an egomaniac and his ego chased Johnson out the door whereas Johnson's arguably one of the top 3 coaches of the 90s. Thank you Jones for being an a-hole.

Finley WILL be a big part of this dynasty. As I said earlier, people forget Rice didn't play in the first 2 Niner SBs. Grant will too. As much as fans on this site criticize Grant, Grant kicks ass. He should be given a medal for getting 1200+ yards a year with this joke of a OL.

Am I being premature saying we'll be a dynasty? Well, instead, call me Zombieslaydamus. Enjoy it folks.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

Love it, but we gotta win one first, lol. :P

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



No kidding. And there is such a fine line between being competitive and not being competitive. A key injury or two, or some high draft picks not panning out. I would rather not think about this stuff until after the game.
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azrunning
13 years ago

The Patriots are on decline and have been now for years.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I wouldn't say 14-2 is on a decline and the have about half of the first 60 picks in this years draft.
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TOPackerFan
13 years ago
I sometimes wonder why McGinn hasn't moved on to a paper with a larger national platform, but I'm so thankful he hasn't. He's truly the best NFL writer I've ever read and that he covers my team makes it even better.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago


I wouldn't say 14-2 is on a decline and the have about half of the first 60 picks in this years draft.

"azrunning" wrote:



Welker's not 100%. He appears to have lost a step. He went from being the best possession WR in the NFL to being pretty good.

Brady's best years are behind him.

The OL is still sick and one of the best if not the best in the NFL.

The D's got issues.

Belichick's best days are behind him. His arrogance used to work. Now everyone sees it coming.

14-2 and half of the first 60 picks in next year's draft aside, the team has "intangible issues." They've become more like the Chargers than the Patriots of the early 00s - regular season dominance, post-season folders.
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