Zero2Cool
14 years ago
http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110126/PKR01/110126171/Repeat-of-2009-shootout-unlikely-for-Packers-Steelers 

On Wednesday morning, Dom Capers cued up the film from last years 37-36 loss to Pittsburgh in Week 15 at Heinz Field, and it was enough to make just about everyone in the defensive meeting room sick.

Over and over, they watched themselves bounce off Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger as he turned would-be sacks into long completions. They relived the nightmare that was the last play of the game when, with three seconds left on third-and-10 from the Packers 19-yard line, receiver Mike Wallace ran a comeback route toward the pylon, and Roethlisberger darted the ball past dime defensive back Josh Bell for the winning touchdown as time expired. They saw the Steelers first play from scrimmage, when Wallace caught a 60-yard bomb for a touchdown over nickel back Jarrett Bush.

When it was over, Roethlisberger had thrown for 503 yards, the most any quarterback had ever piled up against the Packers.

It was embarrassing, Packers defensive end Ryan Pickett said after Wednesdays film session. To give up the kind of yards we gave up against Pittsburgh last year, we definitely are motivated. The tape wasnt easy to watch. They did everything they pretty much wanted on us.

Yet its entirely possible that little of what happened on that late December afternoon in 2009 will have much bearing when the two teams meeting again in Super Bowl XLV in 10 days.

Bell isnt on the active roster. He was placed on season-ending injured reserve a week into training camp last summer. Bush, one of the special teams captains, rarely plays on defense anymore. Back then, the Packers were just 14 games into the transition to Capers 3-4 defense, and outside linebacker Clay Matthews was nowhere near as dominating as hes been this season. The Packers didnt have nickel cornerback Sam Shields and werent starting inside linebacker Desmond Bishop.

On the other side, the Steelers didnt play with their biggest defensive star, safety Troy Polamalu, who missed a good chunk of the 2009 season because of a knee injury. The Steelers werent even a playoff team last season after finishing 9-7.

With one of the NFLs biggest difference makers healthy and playing as well as ever Polamalu was named to the All-Pro team earlier this week things might not be as easy for Aaron Rodgers, who threw for 383 yards and three touchdowns of his own against Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeaus version of the 3-4 defense, which is almost identical to the defense run by Capers, a former Steelers defensive coordinator and longtime LeBeau friend.

From year to year, from game to game, from week to week, teams kind of change up what theyre going to throw at you, said Packers receiver Greg Jennings, who caught five passes for a team-high 118 yards and a touchdown against the Steelers last season. In this case, Dick LeBeau isnt going to change up his whole entire scheme. But he adds a player that we didnt have out there competing against us last year in Polamalu, probably one of the better players on the field.

How well the Packers account for Polamalu might be the single biggest factor in how successful they are offensively. In his only other career game against the Packers, Polamalu had a monster day. He had seven tackles (six solo) and recovered two fumbles, returning one of them 77 yards for a touchdown in a 2005 Steelers victory at Lambeau Field.

Hes obviously the chief of that secondary, of that defense, really, Jennings said. Watching him on film, he does a lot of unique things that you dont see a typical safety do. A lot of safeties arent given the amount of freedom that he has, and rightfully so. He deserves the freedom he has because he makes plays when the ball is snapped.

Those expecting another shootout should consider that this Super Bowl features the top-two scoring defenses from the regular season. The Steelers allowed a league-low 14.5 points per game, while the Packers were right behind them at 15.0.

Thats a far cry from last seasons meeting, when Steelers coach Mike Tomlin made an almost unheard-of decision to try an onside kick after his team took a 30-28 lead with 3:58 to play because he feared his defense couldnt stop the Packers.

We will keep that in mind that coach Tomlin made that call, Packers special teams coach Shawn Slocum said. And we will be prepared for that.

If Capers troops are to replicate their regular-season success, then bringing down Roethlisberger will be critical. The Packers sacked the 6-foot-5, 241-pound quarterback five times in the 2009 game but blew several more opportunities, including one by Cullen Jenkins on the second-to-last play of the game. Jenkins tried to sack Roethlisberger by going high, but the quarterback spun away and threw incomplete to stop the clock.

I counted, we had five sacks and a chance at five, a legitimate chance at five other sacks, Capers said. But it was just basically him being Ben, you know where we missed him or we hit him and (bounced) off of him. And a couple of times, he launched a ball up the field for big plays against us. We gave up by far the most big plays there than we did of any game last season.

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Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
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dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
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Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately
Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.
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Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb
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Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
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Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
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