Zero2Cool
13 years ago
http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110126/PKR01/110126171/Repeat-of-2009-shootout-unlikely-for-Packers-Steelers 

On Wednesday morning, Dom Capers cued up the film from last years 37-36 loss to Pittsburgh in Week 15 at Heinz Field, and it was enough to make just about everyone in the defensive meeting room sick.

Over and over, they watched themselves bounce off Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger as he turned would-be sacks into long completions. They relived the nightmare that was the last play of the game when, with three seconds left on third-and-10 from the Packers 19-yard line, receiver Mike Wallace ran a comeback route toward the pylon, and Roethlisberger darted the ball past dime defensive back Josh Bell for the winning touchdown as time expired. They saw the Steelers first play from scrimmage, when Wallace caught a 60-yard bomb for a touchdown over nickel back Jarrett Bush.

When it was over, Roethlisberger had thrown for 503 yards, the most any quarterback had ever piled up against the Packers.

It was embarrassing, Packers defensive end Ryan Pickett said after Wednesdays film session. To give up the kind of yards we gave up against Pittsburgh last year, we definitely are motivated. The tape wasnt easy to watch. They did everything they pretty much wanted on us.

Yet its entirely possible that little of what happened on that late December afternoon in 2009 will have much bearing when the two teams meeting again in Super Bowl XLV in 10 days.

Bell isnt on the active roster. He was placed on season-ending injured reserve a week into training camp last summer. Bush, one of the special teams captains, rarely plays on defense anymore. Back then, the Packers were just 14 games into the transition to Capers 3-4 defense, and outside linebacker Clay Matthews was nowhere near as dominating as hes been this season. The Packers didnt have nickel cornerback Sam Shields and werent starting inside linebacker Desmond Bishop.

On the other side, the Steelers didnt play with their biggest defensive star, safety Troy Polamalu, who missed a good chunk of the 2009 season because of a knee injury. The Steelers werent even a playoff team last season after finishing 9-7.

With one of the NFLs biggest difference makers healthy and playing as well as ever Polamalu was named to the All-Pro team earlier this week things might not be as easy for Aaron Rodgers, who threw for 383 yards and three touchdowns of his own against Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeaus version of the 3-4 defense, which is almost identical to the defense run by Capers, a former Steelers defensive coordinator and longtime LeBeau friend.

From year to year, from game to game, from week to week, teams kind of change up what theyre going to throw at you, said Packers receiver Greg Jennings, who caught five passes for a team-high 118 yards and a touchdown against the Steelers last season. In this case, Dick LeBeau isnt going to change up his whole entire scheme. But he adds a player that we didnt have out there competing against us last year in Polamalu, probably one of the better players on the field.

How well the Packers account for Polamalu might be the single biggest factor in how successful they are offensively. In his only other career game against the Packers, Polamalu had a monster day. He had seven tackles (six solo) and recovered two fumbles, returning one of them 77 yards for a touchdown in a 2005 Steelers victory at Lambeau Field.

Hes obviously the chief of that secondary, of that defense, really, Jennings said. Watching him on film, he does a lot of unique things that you dont see a typical safety do. A lot of safeties arent given the amount of freedom that he has, and rightfully so. He deserves the freedom he has because he makes plays when the ball is snapped.

Those expecting another shootout should consider that this Super Bowl features the top-two scoring defenses from the regular season. The Steelers allowed a league-low 14.5 points per game, while the Packers were right behind them at 15.0.

Thats a far cry from last seasons meeting, when Steelers coach Mike Tomlin made an almost unheard-of decision to try an onside kick after his team took a 30-28 lead with 3:58 to play because he feared his defense couldnt stop the Packers.

We will keep that in mind that coach Tomlin made that call, Packers special teams coach Shawn Slocum said. And we will be prepared for that.

If Capers troops are to replicate their regular-season success, then bringing down Roethlisberger will be critical. The Packers sacked the 6-foot-5, 241-pound quarterback five times in the 2009 game but blew several more opportunities, including one by Cullen Jenkins on the second-to-last play of the game. Jenkins tried to sack Roethlisberger by going high, but the quarterback spun away and threw incomplete to stop the clock.

I counted, we had five sacks and a chance at five, a legitimate chance at five other sacks, Capers said. But it was just basically him being Ben, you know where we missed him or we hit him and (bounced) off of him. And a couple of times, he launched a ball up the field for big plays against us. We gave up by far the most big plays there than we did of any game last season.

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Zero2Cool (1h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (1h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (1h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (1h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (1h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (1h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (1h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (1h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (2h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (2h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (2h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (3h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (3h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (3h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (3h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (3h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (4h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (4h) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (4h) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (4h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (4h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (4h) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (5h) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (6h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (6h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (7h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (7h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (7h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (7h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (7h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (7h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (7h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (7h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (7h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (7h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (7h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (7h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (7h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (7h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (7h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (7h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
Zero2Cool (8h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
packerfanoutwest (8h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker
packerfanoutwest (8h) : if bucs win out they win their division
beast (8h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us
packerfanoutwest (8h) : falcons are already ahead of us
beast (8h) : Packers will get in
beast (8h) : If Packers lose the rest of their games and Falcons win the rest of theirs, they could pass us... but not gonna happen
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