Zero2Cool
14 years ago

It's great to see when we have no running game, it is the Oline's fault. Anyone else see Turned get hit at the line and running through guys? Can Bjack, nope.

And to answer the questions of what RB's were out there, who did we draft? Starks, he's doing alot. Nance off waivers, guy still doesn't know the offense.

FA were Washington, Williams, Brown, Thomas, Norwood and Snelling to name a few.

After the first week rumors of Barber, Jones, Lynch and Jackson

FA rookies not drafted this year Blount, Ivory

Any questions? So we didn't have options or just chose not to pursue any?

"packer98" wrote:



Care to add the first names? Some of those are kind of popular among the NFL.

And is this before or after Ryan Grant went down? Hmm...
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

So the lesson we get from this is that the Falcons won the game because they have a better running game? Give me a break. This is not the 1970s, folks. The pass-happy Packers moved the ball more effectively today then the Falcons did. The Falcons won because they made a couple of big plays and the Packers kickoff coverage team made the big mistake.

"Greg C." wrote:



Things are easy to overlook when running smoothly; certainly our passing game has been clicking since the Cowboys game.

Still, that should not diminish the point that had we any real RB worth a damn in terms of speed, we'd be able to take advantage of some of the opportunities that are out there.

We didn't lose because of a lack of a running game; it's wrong to suggest that.

However, there is a shitload of yardage to gain through the run because teams are playing to take the pass away. Especially when we start working our way towards the sidelines, it is surprising how much open field there is to be exploited.

The Packers, had they any sort of speed-threat at RB, would make life for Rodgers a hell of a lot easier.

Again, we did not lose because we couldn't run the ball. But that should not lead us to dismiss a very valid observation (regardless of packer98 making it) that we have been short-changed at the RB position by Ted.
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Finley88Beast
14 years ago
I think Starks may make his NFL debut next week Nance went out with a concussion today.
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peteralan71
14 years ago

I think Starks may make his NFL debut next week Nance went out with a concussion today.

"Finley88Beast" wrote:



Should be interesting to see how he does against the 49ers and Lions in the next 2 weeks. He will certainly be challenged by Patrick Willis and the Lions' front seven.
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nerdmann
14 years ago

I think Starks may make his NFL debut next week Nance went out with a concussion today.

"Finley88Beast" wrote:





You know, they could have IR'd Starks. But they didn't. They activated him. Well, what for? Let's see what he's got.
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Finley88Beast
14 years ago

I think Starks may make his NFL debut next week Nance went out with a concussion today.

"nerdmann" wrote:





You know, they could have IR'd Starks. But they didn't. They activated him. Well, what for? Let's see what he's got.

"Finley88Beast" wrote:



It wasn't bad that they didn't IR him I think he could be a good player if he stays healthy.
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nerdmann
14 years ago

I think Starks may make his NFL debut next week Nance went out with a concussion today.

"Finley88Beast" wrote:





You know, they could have IR'd Starks. But they didn't. They activated him. Well, what for? Let's see what he's got.

"nerdmann" wrote:



It wasn't bad that they didn't IR him I think he could be a good player if he stays healthy.

"Finley88Beast" wrote:





He may already be a good player.
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packer98
14 years ago

And to answer the questions of what RB's were out there, who did we draft? Starks, he's doing alot. Nance off waivers, guy still doesn't know the offense.

FA were Washington, Williams, Brown, Thomas, Norwood and Snelling to name a few.

After the first week rumors of Barber, Jones, Lynch and Jackson

FA rookies not drafted this year Blount, Ivory

Any questions? So we didn't have options or just chose not to pursue any?

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



You fail to point out how any of those RBs give us a better option than Jackson.

Still, you make a very, very valid point Packer98. I've been on Ted's case for a while for short-changing the RB position by basically having no RB with speed to get to the outside consistently besides Grant. He had one in Lumpkin, only to go and cut him with back-up John Kuhn in mind. That's downright moronic.

But you need to be careful about what you're implying. We don't need a true RB, we simply need one who has more speed than Jackson, one who can quickly get to the outside and exploit mismatches / single LBs.

Jackson cannot, consistently. That much should be obvious. Yet, neither can someone like Blount, who is more of a tough between the tackles runner.

Frankly, going forward this is what we have. Our long-shot hope is that Starks get accustomed to the NFL in the next month, is ready to take game snaps, and if he gets any snaps then shows some real speed.

We can get by without such a RB. I'm not saying we need an elite RB to win, because it is obvious we do not. But considering the coverages and teams are mostly throwing at us and the loss of J-Mike, a RB like Grant would go a long ways in making life much easier for our offense to operate.

It is astonishing when you go back and look at the film how much teams are basically daring McCarthy to run the football. We've even had holes Ryan Pickett could fit through opened up. Yet, simply, we lack the personnel at RB to take advantage of the opportunities teams are giving us.

"packer98" wrote:




All, point well taken. I do agree. I not trying to imply we need a elite RB, just one to get the job done, hit the holes fast and not one that is armed tackled every play. good points.
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Greg C.
14 years ago
Look, I wish we had a better running back than Brandon Jackson. He is average at best. He is a backup, after all. But let's take a look at some statistics from the game. These are overall statistics--no distinction here between the run and the pass:

First Downs GB 22 ATL 19
Third Down Efficiency GB 4-11 ATL 4-12
Fourth Down Efficiency GB 2-3 ATL 2-2
Total Plays GB 59 ATL 57
Total Yards GB 418 ATL 294
Time of Possession GB 28:20 ATL 31:40

Those numbers are very close, except total yards, which significantly favored the Packers. And fittingly, the score was tied with under a minute left.

I don't buy that the Falcons' 20 yard drive to win the game was set up by their running game. If that is the case, how do you explain the Packers' 90 yard drive to tie the score? They managed to do that in spite of the fact that their running game had not been effective all day. If the Falcons managed a 20 yard drive because they wore out the Packers' defense with their running game, then the Packers must have REALLY worn out the Falcons' defense with their passing game.
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Finley88Beast
14 years ago
Has anyone ever thought that it's not our RBs it's our run blocking?
IMO our run blocking is one of the worst in the league top 20 at least.
Jackson is considerably a solid back,were not gonna get another good rb off the market in some time so I think we should get it out of our heads.
As sad as it is to say our pass blocking is better than our run blocking..
Jackson is the best pass blocking RB on our team he makes plays,he can break tackles even today I seen him get back to the line when our running play is blown up.

A lot of times this last game against the falcons I saw our line get beat easy their DT's got to the backfield fast and blown up plays.

To think about it now I think we need to draft a high round Guard colledge is our worst Olineman imo on our team I don't like him that much.

So think about how it could be ultimately our Run Blocking thats bad and can't run the ball.
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