dhazer
14 years ago

The Falcons won because they made a couple of big plays and the Packers kickoff coverage team made the big mistake.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



And to be clear, the mistake on that return wasn't the facemask, it was the failure to contain and tackle him. Without the facemask, the runner still gets another 5 - 10 years just from falling down.

"Greg C." wrote:



Good thing the runner got tackled poor guy would have been sent to prison for 5-10 years. That would teach them to have good kick returns against us lol 😛
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Wait, you mean I really have to tell people that I think Michael Turner is a good RB?

"porky88" wrote:



Same could be said about Matt Ryan being a good QB, but that doesn't stop you.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago

The other part was we were out coached today. The Falcons challenge their play because it could be a game changing play, Freddy had a chance to do that and he idn't do shit. In that situation you challenge if nothing else make them look at it and it gives your guys a breather.

"dhazer" wrote:



He didn't have an opportunity to see the replay. That's part of home field advantage. When a questionable play occurs, you typically don't show it on the big screen when it could hurt your team.

Also, it's not solely on the head coach. Apparently nobody upstairs told him to throw the red flag.

So Mike McCarthy isn't the devil, after all.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I've often wondered if it would be illegal for a team to bring in a small monitor showing the live TV broadcast, so they could get the better angles.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

Honestly, I don't think we NEED a game changing RB. We've gotten this far without one....

Sure, Michael Turner had a huge game, but they didn't run away with the game. We had a great chance to win if it weren't for our terrible special teams. That being said, a good passing offense is MUCH more valuable than a good running offense.

Don't panic!

And here comes the hate on McCarthy. You just love it when we lose so you can complain about him, don't you?

Oh, and in case you didn't know, AJ Hawk is leading our team in tackles. He's having a great season.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



+1

I didn't see the game. Was working. I did however see the play by play and it was obvious we left a lot of points on the field.

From looking at the play by play, it looks more like execution failure than the lack of a RB lost us the game. Had we completed 2 key passes, we win by 11 points.

Then I don't have to hear people bitching about RBs.
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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
Had the refs not missed the dropped first down. Had the refs not missed the slide for a first. That would have been more than enough for a win.

Not that I am blaming the loss on that. The Falcons are too good and earned that win for it to be excused. It is just that we are good enough and played good enough to win that game. Just as we are.
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago
I would love to have a back like Turner. He might actually be able to get production when meeting 1/2 the defense in the back field. Our Oline is always run blocking on our side of the ball.
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packer98
14 years ago
It's great to see when we have no running game, it is the Oline's fault. Anyone else see Turned get hit at the line and running through guys? Can Bjack, nope.

And to answer the questions of what RB's were out there, who did we draft? Starks, he's doing alot. Nance off waivers, guy still doesn't know the offense.

FA were Washington, Williams, Brown, Thomas, Norwood and Snelling to name a few.

After the first week rumors of Barber, Jones, Lynch and Jackson

FA rookies not drafted this year Blount, Ivory

Any questions? So we didn't have options or just chose not to pursue any?
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coltonja
14 years ago

I knew this thread was coming, especially with Brian Billick, the king of the coachspeak announcers, calling the game. He was harping on the difference in the running games all day long, and yet, with less than one minute left, the score was tied, and that was with the Packers having committed the game's only turnover--a fumble at the Falcons' one yard line.

So the lesson we get from this is that the Falcons won the game because they have a better running game? Give me a break. This is not the 1970s, folks. The pass-happy Packers moved the ball more effectively today then the Falcons did. The Falcons won because they made a couple of big plays and the Packers kickoff coverage team made the big mistake.

"Greg C." wrote:



This post could have ended this thread. Perfectly said.
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

And to answer the questions of what RB's were out there, who did we draft? Starks, he's doing alot. Nance off waivers, guy still doesn't know the offense.

FA were Washington, Williams, Brown, Thomas, Norwood and Snelling to name a few.

After the first week rumors of Barber, Jones, Lynch and Jackson

FA rookies not drafted this year Blount, Ivory

Any questions? So we didn't have options or just chose not to pursue any?

"packer98" wrote:



You fail to point out how any of those RBs give us a better option than Jackson.

Still, you make a very, very valid point Packer98. I've been on Ted's case for a while for short-changing the RB position by basically having no RB with speed to get to the outside consistently besides Grant. He had one in Lumpkin, only to go and cut him with back-up John Kuhn in mind. That's downright moronic.

But you need to be careful about what you're implying. We don't need a true RB, we simply need one who has more speed than Jackson, one who can quickly get to the outside and exploit mismatches / single LBs.

Jackson cannot, consistently. That much should be obvious. Yet, neither can someone like Blount, who is more of a tough between the tackles runner.

Frankly, going forward this is what we have. Our long-shot hope is that Starks get accustomed to the NFL in the next month, is ready to take game snaps, and if he gets any snaps then shows some real speed.

We can get by without such a RB. I'm not saying we need an elite RB to win, because it is obvious we do not. But considering the coverages and teams are mostly throwing at us and the loss of J-Mike, a RB like Grant would go a long ways in making life much easier for our offense to operate.

It is astonishing when you go back and look at the film how much teams are basically daring McCarthy to run the football. We've even had holes Ryan Pickett could fit through opened up. Yet, simply, we lack the personnel at RB to take advantage of the opportunities teams are giving us.
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