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14 years ago
Sometimes I look at pro players, the money and fame they garner and forget that they are people that have a ton going on off the field.

We as humans learn to hide and adapt to depression.. some never escape its grips..

Remember at the holidays.. it might be someone struggling that you know. Don't be afraid to ask... it could save their life.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/the_bonus/11/16/mckinley/index.html?eref=sihp 

The booming bass bounced off the walls in the Broncos' locker room as the rap song "Chirpin" played in the background. Before one practice in October, Denver receivers traded quips like short routes. It was as if Kenny McKinley was right there with them, cracking jokes and a smile so wide, as one teammate said, "You could see every tooth in his mouth."

That smile. Every Bronco asked about McKinley spoke of his smile that seemed permanently pasted to his face. "If you had to pick anybody out of the whole team to [take his own life]," Denver kicker Matt Prater said, "he would be the last person you'd expect to do what he did."

Amid the blur that is the NFL lifestyle, all the grandiose glitz and girls and glory, it's hard to fathom that anyone would want out. And so, Kenny McKinley's suicide on Sept. 20 was a blindside sack. The Broncos' receiver didn't leave a note the night he shot himself in the head, leaving those close to him to piece together the impossible. Just what made him take his own life?

"A lot of people think that because you play professional sports, everything is fine and your life is great," said Broncos tight end Daniel Graham, seated at his locker, two down from McKinley's, which will remain untouched this season. "But we're humans just like anybody else. We have issues just like anybody else does. And you can't take life for granted."

The signs were subtle, almost whirs, missed by everyone. At 23, McKinley was no longer the pride of South Carolina, where football stars are revered. Instead, he was just a guy, another injured player trying to hold onto his career. In an eight-month span, McKinley suffered two knee injuries, the latter requiring microfracture surgery in August, ending his second NFL season before it began. It was soon thereafter, while playing dominoes with some buddies, when McKinley suggested he should just kill himself.

But how could he be serious? There were rumors of debts for child support for his 1-year-old son, but surely he'd get past that. Bumps in the road. No one believed he was suicidal, according to the report from the Arapahoe (Colo.) County Sheriff's Office. Not Kenny.

"Everybody's thinking he's a happy-go-lucky guy because he's got a big smile, but as high as [NFL players get] get, they also get low," said Dr. Stephen Walker, a sports psychologist whose family has kept Broncos season tickets since their inaugural season in 1960. "People often times expect athletes to either not be bothered by stressors or to be operating at a level that these things, somehow, won't affect them. It's a major, major thing that people often misconstrue. And it can be a big problem."

The Broncos cradle McKinley's legacy in their chiseled arms. They share their stories, wear his No. 11 helmet decal and stare at his name in their cell phones, uncertain when or if they should erase it.

And now his legacy lives in others who otherwise might have died. Upon McKinley's death, the reality that a happy athlete suffered from depression reverberated across the country, via talk shows and texts, e-mails and ESPN. Twitter was atwitter. Then, three days after the suicide, a poignant Denver Post column featured the headline: "We must learn from McKinley's death."

*****

On Denver's Mount Rushmore of sports, alongside Elway, Helton and Sakic, is The Denver Post's Woody Paige -- the longtime columnist and lovable loon on ESPN's Around The Horn. Coloradoans read Paige for breakfast, and on Sept. 23, he wrote that Colorado typically has one of the nation's higher suicide rates, topping the country with 940 last year. "Break your leg, and you can tell. Break your brain, and it's not so evident," he wrote. "Fifteen percent of the population in this country suffers from depression."

He wrote that eight years ago, he himself was "committed to committing suicide," stunning his readers.

Paige had been saved by a friend and a doctor. In the column, he urged readers to "mourn McKinley's death ... but learn from his suicide."

That day, e-mails piled up in his inbox. Thousands. Paige clicked on them, one by one, each a tale of depression or despair, salutations or salvation. He began to bawl and could not stop. Tears soaked the front of his shirt.

"I couldn't stop crying but I couldn't stop reading, because it was so mesmerizing," Paige said. "Maybe we'll all learn something from Kenny's death. He didn't realize -- he cost himself his life, but he saved a lot of others."

Sent: Thu 9/23/2010 1:19 PM

Subject: Your article about Suicide helped me.

I have been really contemplating suicide over the last month or two. Nothing has seemed to go right in my life. ... Slowly my self worth and confidence in myself crumbled beneath my feet, til I got to the point I wished I was dead. Then I read your article today and it floored me. It dawned on me -- if it can happen to somebody I look up to, who appears to have everything, then I'm just as vulnerable. I have felt alone and unable to talk. Thanks so much.

*****

At South Carolina, where Steve Spurrier, the ol' ball coach, loves to air it out, McKinley was seemingly predestined to sprint down the sidelines, helplessly chased by Bulldogs and Tigers and Gators. The kid showed up on campus as skinny as a Delta Gamma, but he could run like Usain Bolt and had great hands. He won a starting job as a freshman and by his senior year had broke numerous receiving records held by Sterling Sharpe.

"The slant and fade routes, he could run them as well as any receiver I ever coached," said Spurrier. "Kenny was always a wonderful team player, well-liked by everyone, and never complained if he didn't get passes."

The Denver Broncos drafted McKinley in the fifth round of the 2009 draft and new coach Josh McDaniels personally made the call. Sixteen months later, speaking about his player's death, the coach suddenly paused for 15 long seconds -- his lips quivering, his nose sniffling, his eyes watering -- before saying, "I'm not sure any one of those children [we've ever drafted] enjoyed the phone call as much as Kenny did."

As a rookie in 2009, McKinley was soon reunited with an old pal from South Carolina, basketball player Renaldo Balkman -- "Two down-South guys in Denver," said Balkman, a forward for the Nuggets -- and McKinley would swagger into Balkman's home wearing a gold chain and Coogi clothing, prompting Balkman to dub him "Lil' Boosie," after the down-South rapper. The two would play Madden, game after game, Balkman losing to McKinley every time.

Each morning during the Broncos' training camp, players sauntered in wearing sweats and T-shirts, but the new guy would show up dressed to the nines. The vets would cackle and ask this cool customer just where he was planning on going while dressed like that? McKinley just smiled and became the little brother in the locker room. Guys liked hanging around the kid with the smile. It was infectious. They liked his grit, too. During practice, linebacker Wesley Woodyard would catch himself gazing at the rookie receiver, the feisty fresh-meat, baiting and battling the cornerbacks in one-on-one drills.

"He always wanted to beat guys, and that's something a lot of guys really don't have these days coming out of college," said Woodyard, an undrafted, self-made NFL player. "He had it in his heart."

Yet McKinley was the fifth receiver on the crowded depth chart, a rookie relegated to special teams duty. Then, he injured his knee. And then, the other.

But that smile still beamed. Just nine days before he pulled the trigger, there it was, on the big screen at Williams-Brice Stadium, shining down on the South Carolina faithful. Standing on the sideline on crutches, McKinley was introduced at the USC-Georgia game, and the cheers were intoxicating. For a few fleeting moments, once again, he was a hero. He mattered. And then, it all faded away.

Sent: Thu 9/23/2010 12:48 PM

Subject: THANK YOU FOR THE ARTICLE ABOUT SUICIDE

I suffer from depression and know if there were a gun in the house, I probably wouldn't be here. My dad committed suicide when I was 5. My dad gave me his addiction to alcohol, also. I know if I mix alcohol and guns, I'm a dead man. The news about McKinley hit me right in the stomach. The demon of depression caught him vulnerable and drove him to deeper valleys than he'd ever known better. If he hadn't had a gun.

*****

His stick is over at Kenny's house. They shot so much pool, Matt Prater decided just left to leave the darn thing over there. The buddies would play and play and the goofy McKinley would talk smack the whole time ("I was way better at pool," Prater said).

Sometimes, the kicker and the receiver would invite over dates and have a cookout. The two close friends talked on the phone on Sunday night, Sept. 19, after the Broncos beat the Seahawks. They made plans to have lunch on Tuesday.

"And I got the phone call on Monday," Prater said, quietly.

Imagine calling your friend to see if he were dead. Balkman did it. So did Woodyard. Neither would accept the news.

"It was just ringing and ringing and ringing," said Balkman, who plans on getting a tattoo of McKinley's number 11. "I pinched myself. You come to reality. It's done. It happened. ... The happiest person in the world can be upset by something -- depressed -- and you never know."

What shakes Balkman, and so many others close to Kenny, is the heartbreaking misconception that, surely, you can spot a depressed person when you see one. But the demons hide inside.

"The point about Kenny McKinley, based on what I know, was he had debts and issues with his kid and he was no longer a star," Paige said. "But he was practicing. He had football every day. But then -- he got hurt again. He begins to wonder. He was one of the greatest players in South Carolina history, goes back to a game and they give him a standing ovation when he's introduced. Then he comes back, and he's alone. He's thinking about not playing football, the money, his kid. I'm not a doctor, but when I was hearing and reading these things, that's what I thought -- he was alone. [He must have thought], I don't have any way to get around this, except to get out of this."

Tears dripped in Denver. McDaniels, at the podium in the media room, explaining the inexplicable. Balkman, in the quiet of his home, where he and Kenny used to laugh. And Paige, at his computer, reading e-mails of hope from the hopeless.

Sent: Thu 9/23/2010 10:00 AM

Subject: Your article on the Kenny McKinley death

In the last two years, I have tried to kill myself twice, and thankfully someone was able to catch me in the act and save my life. Your article is so correct in that it does not matter whether you are a professional with a handsome salary or just an everyday hard-working individual. Depression is a very difficult illness to overcome.

I know that the courage you have displayed in coming forward with your battle with suicide will truly help me -- and hopefully many others who have those terrible thoughts.

*****

The bright smile illuminates memories. McKinley's teammates catch themselves staring at his locker, memories stirring. Prater and some other Broncos have a photo of No. 11 in their own lockers. On YouTube there are an array of videos of McKinley, some highlighting McKinley catching passes you're not supposed to catch, others with teary-eyed Broncos fans giving a testimonial about how they lost one of their own. There's also an old college football show, in which Kenny invites a camera crew to his Spartanburg apartment for a barbecue. He wore an apron at the grill, explaining that his daddy and uncles taught him how to cook, "and they passed it down to me, so hopefully I'll pass it down to my children."

After burgers and brats, he exclaimed to the camera, "It ain't a real cookout until someone cranks it up!" At which his buddy indeed cranked up the music, and a smiling McKinley danced to the rap song, "Walk It Out," bouncing around the living room in glee.

Then Kenny said, "It's been like heaven since I got down here."


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Porforis
14 years ago
As someone that's had lifelong problems with depression, I know what kind of an impact it can have on your life and the lives of those around you. As I've grown as a person I've learned to be more constructive and less destructive (several suicide attempts as a teen, some more serious than others), but when you're spending literally half your life in a depressive phase it really wears you down after a while. Trying to keep yourself moving and thinking positively when your entire body is trying to make itself miserable is incredibly draining.
zombieslayer
14 years ago
You always hear "he was the last person I would have thought...."

Depression is irrational, and also can be hidden. The most naturally gifted artist I've ever known had depression and took his life. We were all shocked.

It's easy to say from a third party standpoint "he had such gifts, if I had those talents..." but it's not just walking in their shoes, it's living in their mind. You never know the demons another man has in his head.
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Wade
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14 years ago
+1 to Shawn, again. Twice in one day. Geez.

Glad you started this thread.

People who've never had serious depression often pooh pooh it. Tell the depressed to just get over it, be a man, pull yourself up.

This bugs the crap out of me. And, I'll admit it, part of the reason is that, like Porforis, I've been struggling to deal with it on and off for years.

I think it's probably one of the reasons I hate holidays so much. Holidays can be hell for a depressive (or whatever the official name is for us).

And I think it's probably one of the reasons I often come off as a fluffhead in a certain kind of discussions, as when I rant about employers who treat employees like interchangeable machines to be trashed when obsolete. Because I know what that kind of treatment can do to a person like me if it hits on the wrong side of the cycle.

Because, trust me folks, you never know who is listening. What friend, relative, colleague, or acquaintance might hear you judging Justin Harrell or Randy Moss or whoever, and think, "well maybe I won't let them know what's happening to me, not if that is how he/she feels."

Trust me on this if you trust nothing else I ever say on here: the percentage of the seriously depressed who can "dig out on their own" is very small; and the percentage of moderately depressed who can be pushed deeper by perceived "aloneness" is very high. Because one of the key features of moderate to severe depression is that it distorts the sufferer's judgement; and the more severe the depression, the more it distorts it.

And it is very easy to hide it.

Here's an example.

A few years ago, a colleague retired. We had one of those celebrations you always have, but this one meant more to me than almost any. This was as close to a personal mentor as I've had since my dad died. A man whose economic judgment I would place against just about any Nobel Laureate, and who to me epitomizes how the Christian life should be lived. (He also could have been a stand up comic.)

And I personally really didn't want him to retire. The "change in culture" that has made the place I used to love to come in to work a place of torment had already shown some of its early signs. This gentleman represented everything that I admired; his departure was a signal of everything I was starting to fear.

So, when it came to the "toasts" part, I got very personal. I admitted that when he had called me asking if I would fill in for another prof on leave, he probably saved my life. I was still in grad school, making zero progress on my dissertation, my finances completely screwed up because my "principles" meant I tried to finance my education (including needed research in the UK) with VISA rather than with federal student loans. And I was deeply depressed. But he had offered a lifeline. Partly because even the $37K salary offered was triple what I was making in grad school. But mostly because he brought me into an environment where I was welcomed and my thinking respected. One where I was given just enough positive vibes that I realized I had to get the depression dealt with and open up.

I had never told anyone this before that night. And even though I had by then been working here 7 or 8 years, several "close" colleagues came up to me, a couple who I had known since my student days (25 years), and said "I had no idea you suffered from depression."

To this day, I'm convinced that most of my colleagues have no clue just how deep some of the valleys have been. And how painful, when I've been pushing the bottom, some of their comments/behavior have been.

Like Porforis, I've learned to handle some parts of the disease better. Many things that used to send me plunging south I now can shrug off, for example. And I can talk about it, at least intellectually like this post, quite a bit easier.

But I'm far from cured. I doubt I ever will be. And, and this is the important part, folks, the same is likely true of someone standing/sitting/sleeping within a few hundred feet of you right now.
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Wade
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14 years ago
Oh, and I almost forgot. If you're one of those people like me? And the demons are in control? Get in touch with someone. A friend. A doctor. A pastor. A stranger at the other end of a help line.

And if you get the "pull out of it! Be a man!" response? Tell them "Fuck you!" and try someone else.

I won't lie to you. The hardest thing is picking up that goddamn phone. Reaching out. I've spiralled downward for months without making it. And when I find the person on the other end unhelpful, it's been twice as hard to make myself reach out again.

For me, the internet has been a godsend. I think I've always been moderately phone-phobic, and it just gets worse when the world goes all pear-shaped. But I can type and post, type and email, easier.

But however you do it, do it. Because whatever the demons are telling you, you don't have to be alone.

Parts of the journey you'll have to travel alone, because in the end, you're the only one with that intimate of knowledge with the inside of your skull. But you don't have to find the road on your own. You're allowed to ask for help with directions. You don't have to drive all night; you can have people in the passenger seat, people to hold the map, people to show you how to get better gas mileage, people to help tune the engine, and all the rest.

Frodo couldn't do it alone. And he didn't have to.

Neither do you.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Porforis and Wade - I've heard all my life intelligence is a blessing. I've always responded it's a curse.

The example I used above was one of my first clues. I seriously think the world was robbed by his death. That's how much I valued his creative intelligence.

Then I get into Computer Science in grad school because my business flopped and I needed a change of direction. I had 3 roommates, and two close friends in the major besides my roommates.

All 3 of my roommates are literally geniuses (Mensa). 1 knew from HS. Had chronic depression his whole life and never completed the major. Currently lives in a house that's so bad the city took away their dogs. Yes, not fit for dogs to live in.

2 was a happy guy. Or at least to the outside world. Had a brain aneurysm and is now paralyzed.

3 suffered from chronic depression. Completed the major, had a successful start to his career at a world famous company, but had a nervous breakdown about a year into his career and now lives with his mother and is on psychiatric meds.

Of my 2 close friends outside my roommies in the major, one had a breakdown while still there. She ended up in the loonie bin, literally. The other got his degree but missed the dot com years, got depressed, and is currently on unemployment and a few weeks ago was crying on the phone with me about how he's a complete failure at everything he does in life.

So I know depression is real and not to be taken lightly. For me, it sucks everyone around me is depressed because I know their potential. I have surrounded myself with geniuses and I'm the only one who "made it." It's really sad.

The reason I bring intelligence up is I see both of you as brilliant people. You guys are so smart, and it's a shame depression seems to come with intelligence.
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14 years ago
I have briefly shared some of the dark days between getting hurt and dealing with the concept of never playing again.. the process took several years, 87 til about 93 or 94.. and you never really completely recover.

Dealing with the loss of a limb was the easy part.. dealing with not playing is the haunt.

You learn to cope, accept and move forward just fine, but every now and then something draws you back. You constantly have to keep it in check.

Although they stopped about two years ago, for the better part of a decade I got a call from the local high school wanting me to coach.. and I never have because it would force me to open that wound up again. Same with college ball.. I know I could play at that level because I went up against that competition yearly in camps and held my own and occasionally held the upper hand. Guys that played at DI schools across the country.. and it pissed me off still.

Anyway, before I ramble on and get all worked up.. I could hide the pain extremely well... but also developed a wicked addiction and vices such as gambling and such. It was a downward spiral for years until I had enough and started to address issues and take control.

But I leaned on many to keep me alive for a number of years.. some knew I was struggling, some oblivious to the issues but I was a riot to be around because I had little fear.

I have been on the flip side and dealt with the pain of watching someone slip under and having to deal with the guilt of not being able to save them.. but through my own experience, you the person have to grab hold and start to fight. He never did.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
You can't save anyone else. I've tried too, amigo.
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Wade
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14 years ago
No, you can't. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise.

But you can help those who are trying, and you can reduce the likelihood of making their situation worse. (Which it sounds like both of you do as a matter of practice; this isn't a criticism aimed at you.)

And if one is one of those people who needs saving, one has to realize at some point that he can't do it alone. That realization is part of "grabbing hold and starting to fight."
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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Rockmolder
14 years ago
You didn't happen to read this yesterday, did you Shawn?

Sometimes it might just be for the better. Living a life of depression and self loathing is more agonizing than anything I can think off.

Really, I think that a lot stay alive just for the people around them. That's the thing that bothers me most about suicides. Not that they're taking the easy way out, but that they're taking the selfish way out, leaving everyone behind.
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