Did we release or trade Havner? If we traded him, we probably got rid of him because we'd get more for him vs a crabtree or quarless. Experience is worth something.

We released him.

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I liked humphrey - at least he could catch the ball and make some decent runs ... lee has always seemed to drop some much needed passes.

we kept him on a short contract thou ...

I liked havners attitude - good STer and could fill in at LBer; and decent TE especially with getting some TDs and wasnt prone to dropping passes in the endzone (again cough lee) (lee dropped what 2 last year in the endzone).

ya then finley emerged and we had a star on our hand err had one I should say.

IMO we have too many players at certain positions - granted we didnt know that finley and quarless would go down but why did we need so many TEs and FBs? and now RBs? ... again we didnt know wed of been hit with tons of injuries ...

Havner could not have been placed on the practice squad, as he had played the entire 2009 season.

Quarless had way too much upside to get rid of, and he's showed some of that skill when he's played. He and Finley are the only TEs we have with the speed to run a long route like the one on that fake field goal.

I think Swain is a pretty good player, and a fifth WR is more important than a fourth TE. I was surprised that they kept Crabtree over Havner, though.

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I liked a lot of the Packers TEs ... Humphrey, Moore, Haynos, Havner, etc...

But all had their strengths and weakness as well.

Name, Strength, Weakness

Humphray, good at everything, great at nothing and seemed injury prone
Moore, great receiver, poor blocker and STs
Haynos, very good blocker, speed/quickness
Havner, great finding holes in zone coverage, mistakes in blocking and speed

Honestly I'd like to have Havner and Haynos back for the offseason and give them another spot. Haynos isn't the normal TE they're looking for but might be a great pair for a power set with FB Johnson also in and Haynos could improve during the offseason.




If they kept Havner it would of been 5th TE... and 5th WR is more important normally than a 5th TE.

Crabtree was/is the best on the team at return teams blocking which is something the Packers are weak at. Havner was alright at cover units but they can find someone to replace him there... I wasn't surprised Crabtree was kept as he's also younger and cheaper.

I think it was Havner or Lee and Havner missed too many blocks this preseason so Lee got the nod. Though Lee hasn't done much since... so maybe Havner would of been the better choice.

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