Rockmolder
14 years ago

He doesn't make a habit of tipping the ball up to the defender anymore, if that's what you mean. I wouldn't say he's "excellent," though. Another thing about Lynch is he's got enough speed to get to the corner.

"evad04" wrote:



Last week and the one prior Brandon surprised me with his burst to the outside. I believe it was on a screen pass. He can motor, if he has the room to do so.

"nerdmann" wrote:





He has shown an extra gear the past couple games, that's true. If he gets 20+ carries, he could really get into a groove. But you know that ain't going to happen. He's the "third down" back. (And everyone knows we never run on third down. We protect the passer so he can throw deep.)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:


Really? Got the stats to back it up? This type of horseshit makes me livid. There are a few instances where our QB -- whom I am a big fan of -- has thrown it deep in 3rd and short situations. This, however, is not an indication that the playcall says "Make it rain! Throw it up there!" I'm no expert but I can tell that your understanding of offense is remedial at best. You understand that a play that has four or five receiving options is going to have a few that go downfield?

Hey, I'm an armchair QB. I know how to fix our offensive woes. Throw slants and screens (so we can stroke our mid-90s Holmgren boner) and give B-Jack the ball 23 times a game. That's it. Put it in a pot, let it simmer for 3 hours, and serve. Football can't possibly be more complicated than that. I mean, I play Madden -- I know what's up. [...rage...]

"nerdmann" wrote:



The best thing here is that everyone was harping on McCarthy a year ago for calling draws on 3rd down. With how good Rodgers was, no one ever wanted to see another run on 3rd down.
nerdmann
14 years ago

He doesn't make a habit of tipping the ball up to the defender anymore, if that's what you mean. I wouldn't say he's "excellent," though. Another thing about Lynch is he's got enough speed to get to the corner.

"evad04" wrote:



Last week and the one prior Brandon surprised me with his burst to the outside. I believe it was on a screen pass. He can motor, if he has the room to do so.

"nerdmann" wrote:





He has shown an extra gear the past couple games, that's true. If he gets 20+ carries, he could really get into a groove. But you know that ain't going to happen. He's the "third down" back. (And everyone knows we never run on third down. We protect the passer so he can throw deep.)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:


Really? Got the stats to back it up? This type of horseshit makes me livid. There are a few instances where our QB -- whom I am a big fan of -- has thrown it deep in 3rd and short situations. This, however, is not an indication that the playcall says "Make it rain! Throw it up there!" I'm no expert but I can tell that your understanding of offense is remedial at best. You understand that a play that has four or five receiving options is going to have a few that go downfield?

Hey, I'm an armchair QB. I know how to fix our offensive woes. Throw slants and screens (so we can stroke our mid-90s Holmgren boner) and give B-Jack the ball 23 times a game. That's it. Put it in a pot, let it simmer for 3 hours, and serve. Football can't possibly be more complicated than that. I mean, I play Madden -- I know what's up. [...rage...]

"nerdmann" wrote:





Never played Madden in my entire life. Are you saying the offense is adequate or are you saying they should just keep doing what they're doing now, only execute?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
evad04
14 years ago

He doesn't make a habit of tipping the ball up to the defender anymore, if that's what you mean. I wouldn't say he's "excellent," though. Another thing about Lynch is he's got enough speed to get to the corner.

"nerdmann" wrote:



Last week and the one prior Brandon surprised me with his burst to the outside. I believe it was on a screen pass. He can motor, if he has the room to do so.

"evad04" wrote:





He has shown an extra gear the past couple games, that's true. If he gets 20+ carries, he could really get into a groove. But you know that ain't going to happen. He's the "third down" back. (And everyone knows we never run on third down. We protect the passer so he can throw deep.)

"nerdmann" wrote:


Really? Got the stats to back it up? This type of horseshit makes me livid. There are a few instances where our QB -- whom I am a big fan of -- has thrown it deep in 3rd and short situations. This, however, is not an indication that the playcall says "Make it rain! Throw it up there!" I'm no expert but I can tell that your understanding of offense is remedial at best. You understand that a play that has four or five receiving options is going to have a few that go downfield?

Hey, I'm an armchair QB. I know how to fix our offensive woes. Throw slants and screens (so we can stroke our mid-90s Holmgren boner) and give B-Jack the ball 23 times a game. That's it. Put it in a pot, let it simmer for 3 hours, and serve. Football can't possibly be more complicated than that. I mean, I play Madden -- I know what's up. [...rage...]

"Zero2Cool" wrote:





Never played Madden in my entire life. Are you saying the offense is adequate or are you saying they should just keep doing what they're doing now, only execute?

"nerdmann" wrote:


I'm saying execution is a huge part of it, and a part that you refuse to acknowledge. Like I said, you've written your script and you're sticking to it. I don't think I'll convince you otherwise.

I still think it is ridiculous to claim that our offense forces it downfield all the time. That's simply not true. There have also been a ton of gripes about the number of carries in recent games. When you play against the Vikes and Jets I wouldn't imagine any team would tote the rock with regularity (yeah, yeah, New England had some success, but Minnie's greatest vulnerability is still their pass defense). Now, go back to the Washington game and I'll agree -- I too would have liked to see Green Bay run it more.
William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."
lords_of_thelema
14 years ago
Let's make it interesting. This is for third and short only. I say the run to pass ratio will be 3-1. There's gotta be a couple quick handoffs to kuhn in there!
blank
nerdmann
14 years ago

He doesn't make a habit of tipping the ball up to the defender anymore, if that's what you mean. I wouldn't say he's "excellent," though. Another thing about Lynch is he's got enough speed to get to the corner.

"evad04" wrote:



Last week and the one prior Brandon surprised me with his burst to the outside. I believe it was on a screen pass. He can motor, if he has the room to do so.

"nerdmann" wrote:





He has shown an extra gear the past couple games, that's true. If he gets 20+ carries, he could really get into a groove. But you know that ain't going to happen. He's the "third down" back. (And everyone knows we never run on third down. We protect the passer so he can throw deep.)

"evad04" wrote:


Really? Got the stats to back it up? This type of horseshit makes me livid. There are a few instances where our QB -- whom I am a big fan of -- has thrown it deep in 3rd and short situations. This, however, is not an indication that the playcall says "Make it rain! Throw it up there!" I'm no expert but I can tell that your understanding of offense is remedial at best. You understand that a play that has four or five receiving options is going to have a few that go downfield?

Hey, I'm an armchair QB. I know how to fix our offensive woes. Throw slants and screens (so we can stroke our mid-90s Holmgren boner) and give B-Jack the ball 23 times a game. That's it. Put it in a pot, let it simmer for 3 hours, and serve. Football can't possibly be more complicated than that. I mean, I play Madden -- I know what's up. [...rage...]

"nerdmann" wrote:





Never played Madden in my entire life. Are you saying the offense is adequate or are you saying they should just keep doing what they're doing now, only execute?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:


I'm saying execution is a huge part of it, and a part that you refuse to acknowledge. Like I said, you've written your script and you're sticking to it. I don't think I'll convince you otherwise.

I still think it is ridiculous to claim that our offense forces it downfield all the time. That's simply not true. There have also been a ton of gripes about the number of carries in recent games. When you play against the Vikes and Jets I wouldn't imagine any team would tote the rock with regularity (yeah, yeah, New England had some success, but Minnie's greatest vulnerability is still their pass defense). Now, go back to the Washington game and I'll agree -- I too would have liked to see Green Bay run it more.

"nerdmann" wrote:





I think that it's on the coach to have a team ready to show up and play for an entire 60. Let's look at the defense. For some reason, they show up regularly. They play above their potential as individuals. Hell, even guys like Bishop are solid. Sanders never got that out of him. Capers makes guys like Shields and Peprah look good.
I also think the offense would execute better if they were running more "high percentage" plays. Throwing deep is lower percentage, which is why I don't like that. I would also like to burn more clock on offense to keep our defense fresh. We've had alot of injuries on the defensive side.
As far as running the ball, my main point here is that it's not really worth it to give up a 3rd for a guy you're only gonna use 8-10 times a game. But yeah, I would like to see Jackson get more carries. Do you agree that he probably won't?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Greg C.
14 years ago
My apologies for starting this Marshawn Lynch thread. Honestly, I had no idea it would turn into a bitch session about play calling. Oh wait a minute, pretty much every thread that makes it to page two on this site turns into a bitch session about play calling.
blank
nerdmann
14 years ago

My apologies for starting this Marshawn Lynch thread. Honestly, I had no idea it would turn into a bitch session about play calling. Oh wait a minute, pretty much every thread that makes it to page two on this site turns into a bitch session about play calling.

"Greg C." wrote:





Hey man, I don't mean to start any personal bitch fests. I love all you guys. Just telling it like I see it.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
zombieslayer
14 years ago



Touche. The guy does have a pretty bad track record. It's too bad that some very talented individuals decide to jeopardize their career like that.

"Jakest3r" wrote:



Lynch is from the ghetto.

Some folks never leave their ghetto mentality behind, even when they've physically left the ghetto. Lynch seems to be one of them. I'm glad we don't have him, even though he's physically very talented (I saw him play at Cal).
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
Forsett is averaging 4.4 in Seattle and Lynch is 3.1 ypc. That tells me it is Lynch and not the blocking.

Last year is Buffalo when everyone but Lynch averaged 4.5 and he only got 3.7 tells me again, it is Lynch, not the blocking.

Lynch has 9 yards receiving in Seattle for the 4 games he was in. Jackson has 20 some catches for about 130 yards.

Why do we need a guy like Lynch?
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Why do we need a guy like Lynch?

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:

Because it's the sexy thing to do since we've lost all games since Ryan Grant was injured. Now our season is over, but at least we still have our draft pick.
UserPostedImage
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (4h) : It's the cycle of civilizations. Get lazier, lazier, softer, softer and vanish.
    Martha Careful (5h) : great point. every aspect of society, including art, culture and sports has degraded.
    dfosterf (16h) : Green Bay sweep meant something to society about stopping pure excellence. We have the tush push now
    dfosterf (16h) : We old Martha.
    Martha Careful (17h) : *front four
    Martha Careful (17h) : Re frout four, I wish we had some Green "People Eaters" or a fearsome foursome
    dfosterf (4-Jun) : *directions*
    dfosterf (4-Jun) : Just don't ask him for driving direct
    dfosterf (4-Jun) : Jim Marshall was an all-time great DE for the Purple People Eaters. Didn't like him. That's a compliment. RIP
    Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : ooppppss
    Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : “Kenny Clark played all of last season hurt by the way and got surgery to fix it in January”
    Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : @ByRyanWood How much did the injury affect him last fall? “A lot.”
    Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : @ByRyanWood Kenny Clark said he had foot surgery in January. Injured his foot in opener against Eagles and played through it all year.
    Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Golden is wearing guardian cap again. I bet he plays with it on too.
    Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : All the stuff I'm reading from Lions fans are pointing at his toe; he more or less has permanent turf toe in one of his big toes
    dfosterf (3-Jun) : Kenny played through it, and a shame he gets little credit for that, imo
    dfosterf (3-Jun) : Big men. I hope it's not the undoing of Kenny Clark
    dfosterf (3-Jun) : Probably his toe. Pretty much a great center. Toe injuries are brutal to bigen
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jun) : Lions All-Pro C Frank Ragnow retires
    wpr (30-May) : It's all good.
    beast (30-May) : Yeah, and I enjoyed your comments and just attempted to add to it. Sorry if I did it incorrectly.
    wpr (30-May) : Beast I never said Henderson was the salt of the earth. Nor even that he was correct. Just quoting the guy.
    Zero2Cool (29-May) : What did you do??
    Zero2Cool (29-May) : Whoa
    beast (29-May) : OMG the website is now all white, even some white on white text
    beast (29-May) : Henderson, who admits to taking cocaine during the Super Bowl against the Steelers, might dislike Bradshaw as he lost two Superbowls to him
    wpr (28-May) : Hollywood Henderson said Bradshaw “is so dumb, he couldn't spell 'cat' if you spotted him the C and an A.”
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : Cooper stock=BUY BUY BUY
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : Also notes he’s playing with more confidence.
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : @AndyHermanNFL MLF says there was a time last year where Cooper was at 220 pounds. Now he’s at 240 and still flying around.
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : And don't even get me started on Frank Caliendos "impersonations"
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : I got tired of them being circle jerks with them overlaughing at each others jokes.
    Zero2Cool (28-May) : It used to be must watch TV for me. now it's "meh" maybe to hear injury update
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : I haven't watched the pregame shows in years and I don't feel like I've missed a thing
    Zero2Cool (28-May) : Love says knee affected him all season, groin injury didn't help matters.
    Zero2Cool (28-May) : I used to enjoy him on FOX Pregame. Now it's like a frat party of former Patriots.
    Zero2Cool (28-May) : LaFleur on Watson: “Christian is doing outstanding. I would say he’s ahead of schedule.”
    Martha Careful (28-May) : Bradshaw is a dumb ass cracker. I am so tired of his "aw shucks" diatribe. He should shrivel up and go away.
    buckeyepackfan (28-May) : He wad all butt hurt because Aaron duped the media saying he was immunized.
    buckeyepackfan (28-May) : Bradshaw needs to retire. He's been ripping on Rodgers ever since the covid crap. He was all hury
    Zero2Cool (28-May) : Terry Bradshaw doesn't want Rodgers in Pittsburgh lol wow
    Zero2Cool (27-May) : one day contract, which he also feels is pointless, but if Packers came to him, he would
    packerfanoutwest (27-May) : Aaron Rodgers talks possibility of retiring with Packers, just another rumor
    dfosterf (27-May) : Go watch 2001
    Zero2Cool (26-May) : 1984
    dfosterf (26-May) : That movie sent a chill through many. 1968.
    dfosterf (26-May) : "Open the pod bay doors, HAL"
    buckeyepackfan (25-May) : Haven't we all seen thus movie? It doesn't end well!! Lol
    Zero2Cool (25-May) : lol Anthropic’s new AI model turns to blackmail when engineers try to take it offline
    dfosterf (25-May) : Claude Opus 4
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2025 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
    COMMANDERS
    Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
    Browns
    Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
    Cowboys
    Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
    BENGALS
    Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
    Cardinals
    Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
    PANTHERS
    Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
    EAGLES
    Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
    Bears
    Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
    RAVENS
    Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
    Vikings
    Recent Topics
    3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    1-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    1-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    29-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    27-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    27-May / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

    23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

    22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

    21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

    20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.