Zero2Cool
14 years ago
djcubez, thank you.

This probably isn't the thread for this question, but do we have a position by position, play by player count of his drafts?

QB - Aaron Rodgers
QB - Matt Flynn
QB - Brian Brohm


etc ...

I inquire because it'd be neat to see how many at what position have a higher success rate. I think Rockmolder may have something like this?
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Yes, Rockmolder has it up until the 2013 draft.
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beast
14 years ago

Thanks alot and here I was hoping we would win the Super Bowl sometime soon, now you have me thinking we will be drafting in the top 5 the next few years.

I feel the doom now, Hopefully we have a lock out next year so we don't have to suffer thru a 4-14 season.

"dhazer" wrote:



Don't blame that on me... you've always been a drama pessimistic with your head in the toilet... hell I'm not sure if you want the Packers to win or just be able to whine when they lose...

The Seahawks got into the playoffs with Thompson there... even went to the Super Bowl with Thompson roster still mostly there... and I think the Steelers were the better team but we'll never truly know as the Refs got way to involved and the Steelers got all of the calls there way... I felt bad... it didn't seem like a fair called game to me...
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djcubez
14 years ago
Here's a list of all our Ted Thompson draft picks

QB Aaron Rodgers 2005 1
DB Nick Collins 2005 2
WR Terrence Murphy 2005 2
DB Marviel Underwood 2005 4
LB Brady Poppinga 2005 4
OC Junius Coston 2005 5
DB Michael Hawkins 2005 5
DE Mike Montgomery 2005 6
WR Craig Bragg 2005 6
DB Kurt Campbell 2004 7
OG Will Whitticker 2005 7

LB AJ Hawk 2006 1
OT Daryn Colledge 2006 2
WR Greg Jennings 2006 2
LB Abdul Hodge 2006 3
OG Jason Spitz 2006 3
WR Cory Rodgers 2006 4
DB Will Blackmon 2006 4
QB Ingle Martin 2006 5
OT Tony Moll 2006 5
DT Johnny jolly 2006 6
DB Tyrone Culver 2006 6
DE Dave Tollefson 2006 7

DT Justin Harrell 2007 1
RB Brandon Jackson 2007 2
WR James Jones 2007 3
DB Aaron Rouse 2007 3
OT Allen Barbre 2007 4
WR David Clowney 2007 5
LB/FB Korey Hall 2007 6
LB Desmond Bishop 2007 6
K Mason Crosby 2007 6
RB DeShawn Wynn 2007 7
TE Clark Harris 2007 7

WR Jordy Nelson 2008 2
QB Brian Brohm 2008 2
CB Patrick Lee 2008 2
TE Jermichael Finley 2008 3
DE/LB Jeremy Thompson 2008 4
OT Josh Sitton 2008 4
OT Breno Giacomini 2008 5
QB Matt Flynn 2008 7
WR Brett Swain 2008 7

DT BJ Raji 2009 1
LB Clay Matthews 2009 1
OT TJ Lang 2009 4
FB Quinn Johnson 2009 5
OT Jamon Meredith 2009 5
DE Jarius Wynn 2009 6
CB Brandon Underwood 2009 6
LB Brad Jones 2009 7

OT Bryan Bulaga 2010 1
DT Mike Neal 2010 2
S Morgan Burnett 2010 3
TE Andrew Quarless 2010 5
OG Marshall Newhouse 2010 5
RB James Starks 2010 6
DE CJ Wilson 2010 7



Here they are by position:


QB Aaron Rodgers 2005 1
QB Ingle Martin 2006 5
QB Brian Brohm 2008 2
QB Matt Flynn 2008 7

RB Brandon Jackson 2007 2
RB DeShawn Wynn 2007 7
LB/FB Korey Hall 2007 6
FB Quinn Johnson 2009 5
RB James Starks 2010 6

WR Terrence Murphy 2005 2
WR Craig Bragg 2005 6
WR Greg Jennings 2006 2
WR Cory Rodgers 2006 4
WR James Jones 2007 3
WR David Clowney 2007 5
WR Jordy Nelson 2008 2
WR Brett Swain 2008 7

TE Clark Harris 2007 7
TE Jermichael Finley 2008 3
TE Andrew Quarless 2010 5

OT Daryn Colledge 2006 2
OT Tony Moll 2006 5
OT Allen Barbre 2007 4
OT Josh Sitton 2008 4
OT Breno Giacomini 2008 5
OT TJ Lang 2009 4
OT Jamon Meredith 2009 5
OT Bryan Bulaga 2010 1
OG Will Whitticker 2005 7
OG Jason Spitz 2006 3
OG Marshall Newhouse 2010 5
OC Junius Coston 2005 5

DE Mike Montgomery 2005 6
DE Dave Tollefson 2006 7
DE Jarius Wynn 2009 6
DE CJ Wilson 2010 7
DT Johnny Jolly 2006 6
DT Justin Harrell 2007 1
DT BJ Raji 2009 1
DT Mike Neal 2010 2

LB Brady Poppinga 2005 4
LB AJ Hawk 2006 1
LB Abdul Hodge 2006 3
LB Desmond Bishop 2007 6
DE/LB Jeremy Thompson 2008 4
LB Clay Matthews 2009 1
LB Brad Jones 2009 7

DB Nick Collins 2005 2
DB Marviel Underwood 2005 4
DB Michael Hawkins 2005 5
DB Kurt Campbell 2004 7
DB Will Blackmon 2006 4
DB Tyrone Culver 2006 6
DB Aaron Rouse 2007 3
CB Patrick Lee 2008 2
CB Brandon Underwood 2009 6
S Morgan Burnett 2010 3

K Mason Crosby 2007 6



The number at the end is the round they were taken at.

After spending the time doing this I noticed one thing. For years we've been giving Ted Thompson shit for not getting a good offensive line together. In his drafts he's spent the most picks at the following positions:

12 - Offensive Lineman
10 - Defensive Backs
8 - Wide Receivers
8 - Defensive Lineman

Yet the average round we take an OL at is the 4th round.

And here's some notable names that are not a part of TT's draft:

Present before TT: Al Harris, Mark Tauscher, Scott Wells, Chad Clifton, Cullen Jenkins
Acquired by Ted Thompson through trade/fa: Charles Woodson, Ryan Grant, Ryan Pickett, Brandon Chillar
UDFA's: Tramon Williams
Unsure: Donald Lee (Got him '05, TT's first season but I don't know if it technically was his signing)
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Awesome, you rock. I 31'd you for the other one and 33'd you for this one. 🙂
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

After spending the time doing this I noticed one thing. For years we've been giving Ted Thompson shit for not getting a good offensive line together. In his drafts he's spent the most picks at the following positions:

12 - Offensive Lineman
10 - Defensive Backs
8 - Wide Receivers
8 - Defensive Lineman

"djcubez" wrote:



This is why I'm inclined to place a little more blame on the scheme/OL coach than the players themselves.
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nerdmann
14 years ago

After spending the time doing this I noticed one thing. For years we've been giving Ted Thompson shit for not getting a good offensive line together. In his drafts he's spent the most picks at the following positions:

12 - Offensive Lineman
10 - Defensive Backs
8 - Wide Receivers
8 - Defensive Lineman

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



This is why I'm inclined to place a little more blame on the scheme/OL coach than the players themselves.

"djcubez" wrote:





MM was requesting the "smaller, quicker" guys the first few years. Since he picked Sitton, ("bigger, stronger") he's done much better. That's on MM, not TT.
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dhazer
14 years ago

in seattle he drafted

Rd Sel # Player Position School
2 54 Maurice Morris RB Oregon (2002)
3 82 Heath Evans RB Auburn (2001)
1 19 Shaun Alexander RB Alabama (2000)
6 191 Korey Hall FB Boise State (2007)
2 63 Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska (2007)
5 145 Quinn Johnson RB Louisiana State (2009)


info from here 

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




I don't think that list is accurate because it doesn't list Wynn. He was a 7th round draft choice.


Anyone got a real list or we gonna bitch back and forth about whether Ted drafted in Seattle or not?

"dhazer" wrote:



Sorry Zero I missed him he is on the list. I was at work when I got the list.


7 228 DeShawn Wynn RB Florida
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Mike McCarthy was requesting the "smaller, quicker" guys the first few years. Since he picked Sitton, ("bigger, stronger") he's done much better. That's on Mike McCarthy, not Ted Thompson.

"nerdmann" wrote:



And Mike controls the OL scheme, not Ted Thompson.

I've said this hundreds of times. OL should be big fat and nasty men who punish the DL. Period.



dhazer, thanks bud.
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