blueleopard
14 years ago
Clay Matthews draws penalties and double teams. His presence makes our team better.

Throw in clutch tackles by Woodson, and beautiful interception by Nick Collins, and you had a defense that was on point tonight.

There were some problems, but this is against Brett Favre.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

Well Peterson ripped us for 170 tonight, but Brett made sure to fuck all that up.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Exactly. Peterson hasn't proven that he can consistently carry teams on his back. Let him battle for his yards.
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yooperfan
14 years ago

Well Peterson ripped us for 170 tonight, but Brett made sure to fuck all that up.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Our guys bent but they didn't break.
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djcubez
14 years ago
I completely agree with the title of this thread. With that said I think CJ Wilson played a great game tonight. In a Viking's drive in the 4th quarter he was responsible for two consecutive run stops. From what I understand a 3-4 DE is more of a strong, big, physical space eater and gap filler that gives the linebackers and other defenders opportunities to make a play. Wilson mostly shed blocks and went underneath lineman to make plays which is a bit unorthodox but was effective tonight. I still think we need to upgrade our depth at the position. What ever happened to Toribio lol? (To Z2C, NSD or anyone: How do you put a lol correctly in a sentence?)

I didn't watch Wynn specifically tonight but I saw him (94) a lot on the field tonight.
14 years ago
I always thought since the final roster announcement that we could have done with one more D-lineman, at the expense of a tight end.

Truth is though, you can never predict what is going to happen.

We lose Finley and temporarily lost Lee - justifies four tight ends.

We have Jolly suspended, Jenkins and Pickett get injured - end result is an offensive lineman plugging the gap.

In hindsight, I don't think you can have a group of personnel that can cover every dot of an injury crisis.

Would be nice to have Reggie White though! :icon_smile:
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
Perhaps I should clarify what I meant: CJ Wilson and Jarius Wynn played quite well tonight all things considered. I'm not upset that we have those two on the depth chart, or that injuries have now forced them into bigger roles (this scenario is less than ideal, though).

I am much more upset that our depth, right now, consists of TJ Lang and Mike Montgomery. That is, to put kindly, pathetic. Lang is an O-linemen and Montgomery was so miscast as a 3-4 DE that it is not even funny. In other words, with our pathetic depth, we will be asking Wilson and Wynn to shoulder the load of even more snaps. That is not exactly an ideal situation, but our inability to have adequate (capable) subs to spell them is appalling.

If Jenkins or Pickett can come back next week, it will a much needed boost. If we had one position which we need our starters back at right now, it is DE.

However, Pickett reinjured his ankle, and Jenkins was limping pretty bad according to live reports from a couple of the beat writers. I'm writing this more with the view that these guys will be out, or at least heavily limited for the next game.

So, we could use some help in the form of a capable body (or two) that can come in and spell Wilson and Wynn. Because as it currently stands, after these two DEs, we're have non-existent depth. Ted has to give the coaches something to work with.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

That is not exactly an ideal situation, but our inability to have adequate (capable) subs to spell them is appalling.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Four of the Packers' top five defensive linemen are injured, and three of of them are very recent injuries. I'm not going to condemn Ted for not having a plan for this.
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14 years ago

That is not exactly an ideal situation, but our inability to have adequate (capable) subs to spell them is appalling.

"Greg C." wrote:



Four of the Packers' top five defensive linemen are injured, and three of of them are very recent injuries. I'm not going to condemn Ted for not having a plan for this.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I refused to get frustrated with Capers either. The defense was clearly limited in what they could do and what formations they could use.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
And yet when we did sack Favre, it had fantastic results . . .

Yes, I know we couldn't apply pressure every play. I just hated watching our LBs hanging back. I was surprised Favre didn't exploit the shallow to mid routes more.
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

I was amazed at the number of plays in which we had two down linemen and one shallow linebacker . . . or no down linemen at all.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



We really didn't have a choice.

Raji took just about every snap. That's not a good thing for a 340 pound man. I imagine he was gassed by the 4th quarter. Putting in either Wynn or Wilson helps little when you're trying to rush the passer. Might just as well clear out that entire D-line and work around with some speed and confusion. Works wonders for the Pats, as well.

That package confused the heck out of Favre, as well.

As to the original post... I agree, but you really can't see this coming.

The amount of injuries coming into this game was pretty bad. We still had a decent rotation of 5 linemen, though. Having a freak injury during warm-ups is something you don't expect. Then having Pickett go out halfway is just brutal. I think we expected to play a lot of 2 linemen packages, anyway, so 5 should've been enough.
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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
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