dfosterf
14 years ago

Funny you mention Milwaukee. I was offered a job there based on my resume, but I said no 'its too far from home'.

Months later, I move 1,131 miles from home.

My plan is to move back after my two years are up and I'll probably land somewhere in Milwaukee. I'm hoping they get the Packers games on the local networks so I won't have to get DirecTV.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Well, that's gonna suck.

We like our Direct TV...

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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Vince, I have that same problem most of the time. There's a few times I've been able to hold back.


I like the DirecTV too, but paying $60 bucks so I can watch 3 hours a week just doesn't seem a good value to me. 🙂
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4PackGirl
14 years ago
i've had a pretty damn good life all things considered. i'm on marriage #2 that is going well, have the most amazing twin boys, the love of my family, & a very few select friends. BUT i've also been divorced, lost my dad to cancer, had a set of grandparents who hated me from the day i was adopted, my uncle is bi-polar/manic depressive, my aunt is a drunk, & my ex is an alcoholic.

all of the "BUT's" made me who i am today. thru the loss of my dad, i regained the strength i once had, divorced the alcoholic, found the love of a man who challenges me, moved 90 miles away from everything & everyone i've ever known & started a new life. i even recently had the courage to tell my mom that she was starting to act like her parents & was pushing us out of her life - something i NEVER thought i could do.

i used to credit all my strength to my dad but i now know that my strength is truly from inside. kevin - i know you. you have the strength & perserverance of several people. stop allowing yourself to get in your way. don't sweat the small stuff. that was a lesson that took me YEARS to understand.

you know how i feel about you. you've had a whole lotta shit piled on you in your young life & it's time to pull yourself out of it & make your OWN life what you want it to be!!
Wade
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14 years ago
This thread illustrates why this site is so special to me.

It's not just a Packer site. It's a people site. Frankly, if it were just a Packer site, I would have left long ago. The quality of Packer content here is as high or higher than any other site I've visited, but given the fucked up state I'm in most of the time right now, I'm not living/breathing Packers the way I did even five years ago. But I come here and I'm reassured that there are real people left in the world. Flawed people, of course -- we live in a fallen world -- but real and worth spending time.

I come here in part because I see people having shitty problems and dealing with them; people like you, Kevin, and Shawn and Rourke and Alan and Julie and Foster and zombie and others whose "real world" names I don't know, who I see as role models. Not because you are perfect, but because you aren't perfect and you deal with imperfections and fuckups and fuckheads better than I do, and it gives me hope.

I come here because I see people with shitty problems still helping others. But not out of busy-bodiness. I hate busybodies. In part because I hate it when people try to make me into something I'm not thinking that will make me happier rather than more miserable. And in part because I hate the fact that I have listened too much to the criticism of those busybodies over the years, to my detriment.

For example, several years ago I went through a pre-tenure review. It came back much more negative than I expected going in. So much so that I came about as close to losing my job at that stage of my career as one can come and still keep it. So much so that I knew I had to make major changes if I wanted to make tenure where I was. So I made changes, and I made tenure.

And yet those changes were serious mistakes. Sometime along the way I realized that in listening to the busybodies, I had -- again -- trusted badly. Oh, sure, I had tenure. But "the improvements" meant I had actually become a worse teacher than I was before that original review. And now I find myself stuck, having to do now what I should have done several years ago, but now carrying around several years of extra baggage, yet past 50 with no more marketable skills than I had when I was 40.

But I'm not blaming the busybodies. I'm blaming me.

I'm blaming me for listening to the wrong people, for trusting the judgment of the busybodies over my own.

But it's more than that, too. Because I've also realized that if I'm going to turn it around, I still can't do it alone. Because, while I'm a pretty smart guy, I've also spent more of my life making bad judgment calls for that life than I've spent making good ones. I know that I still need mentors and role models.

Not because I want to please them -- that's always been one of my big mistakes. But because they have experience and wisdom that I don't have.

You people here have taught me that.

You've taught me that even as you've provided a lot of that wisdom and experience for me.

Because while you all are caring people, you aren't busybodies. (And that includes you, Rourke -- you may be here just as an escape, but you still provide experience and wisdom to me; a lot of it. You may claim to be a shallow, oversexed asshole, but you're not. Well, maybe the oversexed part.)

Maybe its because I'm just a sorry-ass human being stunted in my emotional and personal development that I need the internet for all this. (I know that's what some of the busybodies in my "physical" life think, to the extent they give a fuck about me at all.) But so be it.

All I know is that I'm a better human being for having hung out with you people over the last 14 months.

To be honest, I've found myself liberated here. There are still times I worry about something I say here getting back to the PC powers-that-be and losing my job. (Decades-long-habits of being a pinhead don't go away in a few months.) But there are fewer times when it stops me all the time. Because, quite frankly, I've come to realize that this community gives me a crapload of necessary stuff that my job doesn't. Necessary stuff that means I'd rather lose my job than lose this community that Foster brought me into in August of 2009.

I wish I had the deep, life-long relationships that some people have. I wish I had mentors I could call or learn from as an apprentice human being. I wish, really wish, I had that one "soul mate" to live with.

And maybe, someday, I will. Because that's another thing you all have shown me -- you've given me that hope of possibility.

You've shown me that, even though I'm pretty much as fucked up as ever, that there's a tunnel where light shines at the other end. You've shown me that there are indeed people out there in the world worthy of trust and worthy of treating as example. Real people, not comic book heros OR busybodies. Just everyday people, fallen people, with competencies and strengths over overcoming their weaknesses and those of others.

To my mind there are three sane pieces in my life right now: my God, my dog, and PackersHome.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
4PackGirl
14 years ago
wow. i seriously got tears in my eyes, wade. there have been times when i've wished i didn't share as much of myself as i have on here but i also know that i will get honest opinions - whether i like them or not - they're honest.
DakotaT
14 years ago

wow. i seriously got tears in my eyes, wade. there have been times when i've wished i didn't share as much of myself as i have on here but i also know that i will get honest opinions - whether i like them or not - they're honest.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



Most of us think you haven't shared enough. At least give us a new pose on your signature, Julie. :icon_smile:
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4PackGirl
14 years ago
ha - that's up to shawn - he's my siggy guy! 😉
Pack93z
14 years ago
I will work on another one.. still trying to put together a solid looking tat.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
14 years ago

I will work on another one.. still trying to put together a solid looking tat.

"pack93z" wrote:



:-)
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
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