alharrisdude31
14 years ago

No, male.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:


faggots
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Not necessarily. They could have shit or pissed on him and it would be sexual assault.
alharrisdude31
14 years ago

Not necessarily. They could have shit or pissed on him and it would be sexual assault.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

True, yet pissing could result in a certain "limb" hanging out.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
The rumor flying around campus is that all three men were on the wrestling team, and apparently the victim was really annoying and no one on the team liked him. The word is that they stuffed a lint roller and a toothbrush in his ass. The two perpetrators have apparently been preemptively expelled.

I rarely put much stock in rumors, but that's the word on the street.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

DA files first-degree sexual assault charges against 2 UW-L students
 

By Tribune staff | Posted: Wednesday, October 6, 2010 1:35 pm

Two University of Wisconsin-La Crosse freshman were charged this afternoon with anally sexual assaulting another student in a dorm room late last month.

Casey Gudis, 18, of Ladysmith, Wis., and Brayden Wienke, 19, of Clear Lake, Wis., are charged with first-degree sexual assault, though Wienke is charged as party to the crime.

Wienke is accused of pinning the victim, also a freshman, to the floor about 2:30 p.m. Sept. 27 while Gudis violated him with a lint roller, according to the criminal complaint filed in La Crosse County Circuit Court.

Wienke told university police he threatened to jam an object into the victim earlier that afternoon after the victim tossed playing cards at him while he was taking an online exam, according to the complaint.

The victim reported the assault to his father, who called police. A sexual assault examination revealed several abrasions and other evidence consistent with the victim's claim, the complaint stated.



I don't think these guys will be able to plead this down. The offense falls squarely within the definition of "first-degree sexual assault" as enunciated in Wisconsin statute. Clearly they were charged under the "aiding and abetting" paragraph.

Some people seriously need to learn how to think before they act. It's not worth potentially spending 60 years behind bars because someone through a pack of playing cards.
Pack93z
14 years ago
Might want to look up bodily harm, the legal definition and then reapply your judgment of why they were charged.

http://www.laaw.com/uofdef.htm 

# "Bodily harm" means physical pain or injury, illness, or any impairment of physical condition



For good measure.. Serious Bodily Harm..

"[A] jury should be instructed to use its common sense in deciding whether the injuries constitute serious bodily injury. Among the factors the jury should consider are whether the victim suffered extreme physical pain, protracted loss or impairment of the function of a bodily member, organ, or mental faculty, protracted unconsciousness, and significant or substantial internal damage (such as important broken bones).


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I actually did look up the standard for "serious bodily harm." I just didn't think the injuries qualified under those guidelines, whereas it was pretty clear the perpetrators' actions qualified as "aiding and abetting," which is why I went with that assumption.

According to the paper, he sustained some abrasions; no mention was made of any other serious wounds. While I'm sure buggering him with the handle of a lint roller certainly hurt, I don't know if it qualifies as "extreme physical pain, protracted loss or impairment of the function . . . and significant or substantial internal damage." Anal penetrations tend to heal surprisingly fast, usually without lasting effects. Had they perforated the rectal walls, which I would consider "substantial internal damage," he probably would have lost consciousness from pain and blood loss. I don't see any indication that happened.

Now if they actually jammed the sticky end of the lint roller in him, that could definitely cause "substantial internal damage," but then he'd have endured injures far worse than "abrasions." The rectal mucosa almost certainly would have been torn and he'd have been hemorrhaging pretty seriously.

Obviously, this is all speculation on my part. I wonder if the court records will be sealed due to the nature of the offense, as they were for my friend who was accused of a sexual crime.
Pack93z
14 years ago
Tribune today.. "Unbearable Pain"... then reread the bodily harm definition.. "whether the victim suffered extreme physical pain"..

Pretty evident in my book why they received the charges they did... and in my book rightfully so.

http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/article_673be00a-d1c4-11df-8e86-001cc4c002e0.html 

The 18-year-old victim told authorities the incident caused "unbearable pain."

"He stated he yelled for people to take it out at least twice as people in the room laughed at him," according to the complaint, which states three other students witnessed the assault.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Porforis
14 years ago
These people should have their brains confiscated, it's not like they were using them anyways. What a bunch of frickin' idiots.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Nice find. I hadn't read that article. So it was the handle, as I suspected.

Of course he's stating it caused "unbearable pain." I have no doubt that the pain was indeed intense, but we also can't ignore the fact that he's being carefully coached by his lawyers, who know that phrases like that are the best strategy for ensuring conviction of first-degree sexual assault (particularly since there's probably no direct DNA evidence against the accused).

I don't see any way these guys beat this rap, though. The best I can see them doing is pleading from a class B to a class C felony, but that would still be 30 years and mandatory registration. Their lives are over, and all because they couldn't handle their annoyance with an irritating teammate.

The article makes it sound like there were others present in the room. Has no action been taken against the bystanders?
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