packer98
14 years ago
back??

this was discussed for 2 years and nothing gets done about it. Ted Thompson will not build a super bowl team just on draft picks, he is not that talented of a selector, ie Harrell.
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago
It'll take some time. I think we need to get rid of the dead weight (Clifton, Tauscher) after this season at the latest.

We got Bulaga and Sitton, two promising guys for the future. Let's build around those guys.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Packer - This is actually an old discussion that maybe needs to be brought back. I'm under the impression that a lot of people on this board put the blame more on the OL coach as Ted Thompson has drafted plenty of OL and the coach fails to mold them into anything.

I am by no means an OL expert so I don't feel my 2 cents is as worthy as some of the other posters here.

I do agree with Finland though that Bulaga and Sitton have promise and we should start building the rest of the OL around them.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
I'm kind of stuck in two projects at work, but could someone post every OL that we've drafted since Ted came aboard?
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Pack93z
14 years ago
The Online will be a roller coaster until Campen is replaced.. color me convinced.

Ironic.. though I need to research it, if memory serves correct, Campen was a heavily flagged offensive lineman as well. ;)

With that said.. the next generation of lineman on this club are more physical than the 06' batch. Things will straighten out..

BTW.. I am starting a spreadsheet of those painting Cliffy and Mark as "dead weight" and done.. later in the season reference when they save our asses.. that is if we balance out the offense a bit..

Some forget how Mark solidified the line last season.. but now they are useless. lol. Insanely hilarious.
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago

I'm kind of stuck in two projects at work, but could someone post every OL that we've drafted since Ted came aboard?

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Sure thing:

Junius Coston - C/G - Round 5 - 2005
Will Whitticker - G - Round 7 - 2005
Daryn Colledge - G - Round 2 - 2006
Jason Spitz - G - Round 3 - 2006
Tony Moll - OT - Round 5 - 2006
Allen Barbre - OT - Round 4 - 2007
Josh Sitton - G - Round 4 - 2008
Breno Giacomini - OT - Round 5 - 2008
T.J. Lang - OT - Round 4 - 2009
Jamon Meredith - OT - Round 5 - 2009
Bryan Bulaga - OT - Round 1 - 2010
Marshall Newhouse - G/OT - Round 5 - 2010

Whether it's the GM or the OL coach, I have to say this does not look good at all.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Thanks Finland.

So yes, Ted Thompson does do his share of drafting OL. He's done his part. The coaches have to do theirs and make NFL players out of them.

When I have an OL question though, I usually ask Pack93z.
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bozz_2006
14 years ago
He definitely saved our ass last year, but this year he has looked like shit. Simple as that. I'm not saying he can't turn things around. I'm not saying he can.
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Chutzpah515
14 years ago
The OL and run game have been dead sense Mike McCarthy arrived, giving no indication of future improvement.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
Bozz added to the shit list column.. ;)

By being unbalanced we allowed the DE to set up wide.. they didn't have to worry about the run.. and gave the whole advantage to the DE in the match up.. as a tackle when you have to remain in a close gap and on the LOS scrimmage you are beat more often from the start than not.. don't care whom you are as a tackle.

When the DE sets up wide.. your first drop step as a offensive tackle has to be a deep one.. and giving up balance in order to do so.. that opens up both the outside edge and inside edge up for the DE to attack.. you by alignment as a tackle are off balance from the snap.. and facing a guy, when motivated, like Peppers that type of advantage.. you as that DE better win that battle more often than not..

Pissed me off that we didn't run more guard/tackle or off tackle draws to alter that attack.. Mike McCarthy has got to look back to last season and figure out that we didn't start to dominate defenses until we established balance in the play calling and helping our aging and young tackles out.
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