Timmons
14 years ago
The refs are part of the game. We've got to plan to beat the team, the crowd and the refs. This is not new. Play clean football for F sake.
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dyeah_gb
14 years ago

I have a few gripes.

1. The intentional grounding call on Rodgers. I honestly just never see this called in that particular situation. There was little pressure, and his throw was about 20 yards downfield. They ignored the same call on Cutler in the 2nd quarter. So then we have 2nd and 20, and Jones fumbles trying to make something happen.

2. Chillar's phantom PI call. Olsen still made the catch, so it didn't matter, but I'm really curious what TWO refs saw to eagerly throw their flags on the field.

3. Morgan Burnett's PI call:

Tell me where in that clip a) Burnett initiates contact, and b) Bennett even remotely tries to go for the ball. If I were GB's coaches I would tell Burnett to keep playing it the same way. Again, the refs were EAGER to throw the flag. Three flags came in immediately, on a very questionable call. Three.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



I agree with all three of these points. Especially when Cutler pretty much threw the ball to the ground practically right at his feet. I thought even if you were outside the tackle box that you still had to at least make it to the line of scrimmage.
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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
I only had a problem with the call on Zombo. I have seen Rodgers hit exactly like that several times and never call. Zombo had his head up and didn't drop his chin. He was not hitting with the top of his helmet. I don't like it when Rodgers gets hit like that, but they never flag it. They did for Zombo.

I thought MM should send video from the Playoff game last year when Rodgers took one of those hits and a copy of this one. Tell me, which Ref screwed up.

The Bears didn't get any penalties and they played just as bad. Late hits, holding, face-masking. No calls. That is my beef.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Last year. Bears hit Rodgers twice like Zombo hit Cutler. Neither were called.

It happens. Sometimes we get them, sometimes we don't. Against the Bears, we seem to lose out. I'm sure it evens out against another team.
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GOPACKGO1225
14 years ago
It seems like the NFL refs are so swayed by the hometown audience and thrive for that adrenaline rush where they play hero for 15 seconds calling a penalty on the opposing team. That's just my take. They are way too influenced by the crowd.
lolleren
14 years ago
Biggest problem i had with the refs was the holding calls, some of them didnt influence the outcome of the play and was minor. If the refs wanted to they could call holding on every single play in the nfl, so why call the minor holding when it doesnt influence the outcome of the play.
Or atleast call them both ways, i saw a few we got away with, but i also saw a ton they got away with.

Oh yeah, and the PI on burnett was bogus, but had it been a packer wr at the end of the game, i would want it called! 😛
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

Finesse is not Football, in my opinion.

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Lynn Swann was not football? Swann showed the world why ballet belongs in the NFL. He was beautiful to watch.
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14 years ago

Finesse is not Football, in my opinion.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Lynn Swann was not football? Swann showed the world why ballet belongs in the NFL. He was beautiful to watch.

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Football ballet? Sometimes, very occasionally, you show yourself too Californian or something, zombie...

To help you get yourself back on track....what football is supposed to look like...

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Yerko
14 years ago
I'm with you on the Burnett PI penalty. When they were showing it the wide receiver had just as much contact with Burnett on the play.

Even if Burnett didn't touch the receiver, Collins had that ball. Sucks.

Tausch call was bogus.

They kept calling holding on the Pack but you can clearly see Matthews getting held a majority of the time and getting no call. I made a comparison to the way Matthews and Peppers were getting held.

And I know this is a rule but I think the Zombo hit on Cutler was a bullshit penalty. This game protects the quarterback TOO MUCH today. Zombo had a form tackle on Cutler. He didn't lunge and he didn't lead with his helmet. He even had his arms partially wrapped around Cutler when his helmet hit his chin. What is Zombo supposed to do in this case? The game of football, especially in the pros is so damn fast. Is he supposed to make sure where he places his helmet on a tackle? Please.
If a running back, tight end or wide receiver get hit the exact same way, there is no call. I will argue this rule forever as I hate the protection they give quarterbacks. May as well put flags on them.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Finesse is not Football, in my opinion.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Lynn Swann was not football? Swann showed the world why ballet belongs in the NFL. He was beautiful to watch.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Ballet is important in the NFL for balance, not finesse. As my dad was/is a huge Steelers fan, I've seen more than my fair share of Steelers plays and games from the 70's and Swann was not afraid to mix it up if he needed to nor was Stallworth.

Football should have gracefulness without a doubt, but we should not sacrifice toughness for it. Maybe you like a nation that is mamby pamby, but I do not like it and I do not want the NFL to carry out that mentality either.



From my understanding of the pass interference rule, Morgan should not have been flagged. But he was because the league is sissy and favors passing offenses.
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