Zero2Cool
16 years ago
For quite a few years now I've had family and friends tell me I have some ADD or ADhD deal. I've been long against any medication of any kind. Dad always said "walk it off son" and that's how I go about life. I don't try to 'treat' things, I get past them. Same applies to ADhd or ADD. Those who say I have it, my thought is I just fail at focusing properly and need to try harder.

Mom said that she thought I might have it, but felt that I suffer from some kind of anxiety disorder which she said explains why I can't sit still at times or feel suffocated in the house and have to go for long drives or walks.

Dad says he had me tested back in 5th grade and I somehow tested twice my grade in many of the subjects. (i swear i was only guessing on the answers, i just wanted out of that room)


The point of this is, I'm at work for a half day and bored off my ass and came accross an article that poked my interest. So I thought I'd share with you and pose the question. (no ... not what is wrong with me, that'd take a long time lol) but rather... what do YOU know about anxiety disorder or ADD/ADhD? Do they exist or are they just excuses for people who don't try hard enough? From what I've read, I tend to feel its an excuse for failure.


Here's a graphic I thought was interesting.
http://www.vyvanseadult.com/adhd-symptoms-in-adults.aspx 

Don't most if not all these symptoms apply to everyone? They seem pretty common to me.
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Cheesey
16 years ago
I think it's real, but used WAY too much as an excuse to drug kids.

I was a "day dreamer" in school. I had trouble concentrating and was easily distracted.
I would put things off school work wise unless pushed a little. But i have an IQ in the 120's, and in college never had under a 3.0. I grew out of alot of it, without being drugged up.
I'm glad my parents didn't drug me up.
They tell kids to "say NO to drugs", yet at the first sign of "non conforming" they pump them full of the crap. Then wonder why they are drug dependant the rest of their lives. Do we want a bunch of "zombies" walking around? Cause thats what we will have with this drug forcing types.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago

I think it's real, but used WAY too much as an excuse to drug kids.

I was a "day dreamer" in school. I had trouble concentrating and was easily distracted.
I would put things off school work wise unless pushed a little. But i have an IQ in the 120's, and in college never had under a 3.0. I grew out of alot of it, without being drugged up.
I'm glad my parents didn't drug me up.
They tell kids to "say NO to drugs", yet at the first sign of "non conforming" they pump them full of the crap. Then wonder why they are drug dependant the rest of their lives. Do we want a bunch of "zombies" walking around? Cause thats what we will have with this drug forcing types.
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"Cheesey" wrote:



I agree with Cheesey 100%. I used to go off on this exact same rant all the time.
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Cheesey
16 years ago
I'd like to comment more on it........but i can't seem to concentrate.






LOLOLOL!!!!
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Cheesey
16 years ago

I think it's real, but used WAY too much as an excuse to drug kids.

I was a "day dreamer" in school. I had trouble concentrating and was easily distracted.
I would put things off school work wise unless pushed a little. But i have an IQ in the 120's, and in college never had under a 3.0. I grew out of alot of it, without being drugged up.
I'm glad my parents didn't drug me up.
They tell kids to "say NO to drugs", yet at the first sign of "non conforming" they pump them full of the crap. Then wonder why they are drug dependant the rest of their lives. Do we want a bunch of "zombies" walking around? Cause thats what we will have with this drug forcing types.
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"zombieslayer" wrote:



I agree with Cheesey 100%. I used to go off on this exact same rant all the time.

"Cheesey" wrote:


Oh......Zombie......i didn't mean a bunch of YOUS walking around.

LOLOLOL!!!! :thumbleft:
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago
When my daughter was four her mom decided to have her on some ADD type pills. When I found out about it it was stopped immediately. I think that is way to young to even try to diagnosis a child of anything like that. My argument for taking her off the medication stuff was that she didn't pay enough attention to her and that is why her behavior was out of control.

Three years later, I proved that theory to be correct. She's been living with me for the last year and a half with just your normal issues of a seven year old.

Personally, I think this stuff is more of an excuse for parents to NOT be parents and have something else do the work for them.
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Cheesey
16 years ago

When my daughter was four her mom decided to have her on some ADD type pills. When I found out about it it was stopped immediately. I think that is way to young to even try to diagnosis a child of anything like that. My argument for taking her off the medication stuff was that she didn't pay enough attention to her and that is why her behavior was out of control.

Three years later, I proved that theory to be correct. She's been living with me for the last year and a half with just your normal issues of a seven year old.

Personally, I think this stuff is more of an excuse for parents to NOT be parents and have something else do the work for them.

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EXACTLY!!!!!

Instead of saying "Maybe you should spend a little time with your kid" it's MUCH easier to just drug them up!

My Mom made me sit down and READ out loud to her every week. Then i had to explain what i read. I HATED it.
But you know what? I didn't go to college until i was 32 years old. I scored in the top 5% in the ACT test, and had a 2nd year college reading level BEFORE i even went to college.
I thanked my Mom MANY times for taking the time to make me read to her.
It would have been easier for her to drug me, and sit me in front of the TV.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago

It would have been easier for her to drug me, and sit me in front of the TV.

"Cheesey" wrote:



Keiana's mom punishes her by taking an hour of TV away. That indicates to me that theres more than an hour of TV viewing per day and to me that is unacceptable.
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Cheesey
16 years ago

It would have been easier for her to drug me, and sit me in front of the TV.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Keiana's mom punishes her by taking an hour of TV away. That indicates to me that theres more than an hour of TV viewing per day and to me that is unacceptable.

"Cheesey" wrote:


Theres WAY too many things for kids to do today. Text message, video games, TV and so on. Thats just another reason why our kids are getting so fat. Hardly anyone plays outside anymore.
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evad04
16 years ago

I think it's real, but used WAY too much as an excuse to drug kids.

I was a "day dreamer" in school. I had trouble concentrating and was easily distracted.
I would put things off school work wise unless pushed a little. But i have an IQ in the 120's, and in college never had under a 3.0. I grew out of alot of it, without being drugged up.
I'm glad my parents didn't drug me up.
They tell kids to "say NO to drugs", yet at the first sign of "non conforming" they pump them full of the crap. Then wonder why they are drug dependant the rest of their lives. Do we want a bunch of "zombies" walking around? Cause thats what we will have with this drug forcing types.
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DING DING DING DING! Cheesey and I agree! I'm right with you on this one. I think there is certainly a value to certain medications, but I think this "medicate the world" philosophy will end up hurting an entire generation of youth. I know people whose lives are made much more manageable by taking certain medications -- and there's nothing bad about taking a medication. But the tendency to "medicate, medicate, medicate!" can also be harmful.
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