Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I still haven't seen what happened in a post, just more links. What the hell is going on?!!?!
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Porforis
15 years ago

I still haven't seen what happened in a post, just more links. What the hell is going on?!!?!

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Somewhat abridged from previously posted link, first portion is what we know, commentary portion gradually starts picking up.

Now I'm not in a position to know exactly what happened, but we already know that the original allegations were not exactly true.

We were told that Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, was forced into a shed to stand hours on end after showing up to practice.

The shed turned out to be an equipment room, complete with ice maker, fan, ventilation, and exercise equipment.

We were told that Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, was next confined in an electrical closet under guard.

The "electrical closet" turned out to be a spacious press room with video monitors and stationary bikes, and the "guard" turned out to be trainers who were checking on his head injury.

So we already know that Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, was exaggerating the circumstances to the point of nearly straight-up lies.

So the next question one might reasonably ask is: "why was he told to go there?"

Well Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, suffered a mild concussion not so long ago that had him sidelined, but was recently cleared by his own doctor to play.

Instead, he showed up to practice wearing sun glasses (presumably because of the concussion he had been cleared from), and offered his own diagnosis to coach Mike Leach.

That being that he was not feeling up to practice and instead would rest on the sidelines in his sunglasses while the rest of the team worked their tails off.

At this point, it's worth taking a step back and looking at the situation in it's totality.

First, I'd like to appeal to the former or still participating football players out there and ask them what they think their coach would have done if they had been cleared to play, but decided quite nonchalantly that they didn't feel like it.

I could very well ask this of any former or current athlete, but football coaches tend to be an ever harder breed; they're all like Bobby Knight.

What Mike Leach did was tell Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, that he'd be damned if was going to let him laze around on the sidelines in sunglasses while the rest of the team worked and if the sun was such a problem, that he'd be better off sitting out the practice in the equipment garage, where players often took respite from the heat.

And you know what? I can't be sure, but he probably said that forcefully and with an expletive or two laced in to accentuate his point.

That's what football coaches do.

It's their job to break you down until you understand that nobody is above the team.

Nobody, not even Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James.

In the recent aftermath of this fiasco, we also have heard testimony as to exactly the kind of player James was.

His receivers coach was quoted as saying that, "he undermined my authority on many occasions."

His fellow player Eric Morris said, "Ever since the day he arrived on the Texas Tech campus, you couldn't help but to feel a negative energy from him. He expected people to baby him and that he was going make it solely on the fact that his father was a very successful player."

A coach was quoted as recalling that James, "complained to me that we were not doing our jobs as coaches and that his effort was just fine."

There are other reports that he had been a problem many times before, so there was a substantial prior history before he showed up that day with his shades on.

There is absolutely nothing extraordinary about what Mike Leach did. If you've got a malignancy on your team you either have to cure it or separate it from the rest so it doesn't spread.

And from my experience under collegiate football coaches, it sounds like the kid got off pretty easy.

So why is this a big deal at all?

Well if you hadn't heard, Adam James is the son of ESPN analyst Craig James.

He's white, he's rich, and comes from a semi-famous family.

Because let's be honest,this is but the tip of the iceberg of the motivations a coach will employ to instill disciple and if this was just some black kid from the hood, we wouldn't have heard a damn thing about it.

In fact, his scholarship probably would've been pulled and he'd have been sent packing long ago.

If we did hear about it the first question we'd ask is, "Well what did he do?"

That's the same question Texas Tech wouldn've asked too.

Unless of course we're talking about Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James.

Instead, the administration went the other route and suspended their coach, with absolutely no evidence that he behaved inappropriately for their upcoming bowl game vs. Michigan State, thereby punishing the entire team for their hard work and effort this season.

And as recently reported by the AP, Leach has now been fired.

Football players are a tight knit group and I find it telling that not one of them has offered anything close to support for James (quite the opposite), whereas as a number have broken ranks in support of their coach.

And so I'd like to address the nation in my final words of this rant because I find this situation so absurd.

First of all, I'd like to apologise to women everywhere for my title, as I am really not comparing you to Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, but rather falling victim what I felt was a clever play on words.

Who knows, I'm probably wrong.

Second, have we really not evolved past the point where a white rich kid can take down an entire team for little more than his own injured pride?

Are we going to allow Little League Dad's to befoul college sports as well?

The kid had a mild concussion, whoopty- freaking-do.

If he wasn't feeling well, than the correct place for him was out of the sun not on the sidelines.

So unless some new piece of information is divulged and the overwhelming testimony of players and coaches somehow switches sides, then Texas Tech has a lot of "splaining" to do.

Let's give a man some due process before jumping off the deep end, validating a spoiled child's whining, and punishing the rest of the players who did nothing wrong.

Shame on them, and somewhere I imagine that Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, is smiling a dark spoiled smile to himself.

Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Oh damn, I was hoping for a simple thing. That's too much reading for my simple mind to comprehend today.

I heard on the radio that coach put some kid in a enclosed space because of a concussion or something?
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dfosterf
15 years ago

Oh damn, I was hoping for a simple thing. That's too much reading for my simple mind to comprehend today.

I heard on the radio that coach put some kid in a enclosed space because of a concussion or something?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Kid was a pussy.

Coach tried to unfuck him.

Got fired for it...<------------last part debatable the "why" of the firing.

More better?

(Probably shock most to learn that I agree with him being fired, btw.-but I'm not going to get into it)
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Hmm, pussies. TOUGHIN UP!
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longtimefan
15 years ago

Oh damn, I was hoping for a simple thing. That's too much reading for my simple mind to comprehend today.

I heard on the radio that coach put some kid in a enclosed space because of a concussion or something?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



LOL didnt I post that?
Porforis
15 years ago

Oh damn, I was hoping for a simple thing. That's too much reading for my simple mind to comprehend today.

I heard on the radio that coach put some kid in a enclosed space because of a concussion or something?

"longtimefan" wrote:



LOL didnt I post that?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



You did, I just thought he was too lazy to click on the link so I cut out the introductory commentary and posted the rest in here so he wouldn't have to. 😉
vikesrule
15 years ago

Oh damn, I was hoping for a simple thing. That's too much reading for my simple mind to comprehend today.

I heard on the radio that coach put some kid in a enclosed space because of a concussion or something?

"Porforis" wrote:



LOL didnt I post that?

"longtimefan" wrote:



You did, I just thought he was too lazy to click on the link so I cut out the introductory commentary and posted the rest in here so he wouldn't have to. ;)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I've been saying it for years now.....It is way past time!

I for one am more than willing to pitch in and contribute some money, so that we can get Zero2Cool some much needed and way overdue help!





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