Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I still haven't seen what happened in a post, just more links. What the hell is going on?!!?!
UserPostedImage
Porforis
15 years ago

I still haven't seen what happened in a post, just more links. What the hell is going on?!!?!

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Somewhat abridged from previously posted link, first portion is what we know, commentary portion gradually starts picking up.

Now I'm not in a position to know exactly what happened, but we already know that the original allegations were not exactly true.

We were told that Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, was forced into a shed to stand hours on end after showing up to practice.

The shed turned out to be an equipment room, complete with ice maker, fan, ventilation, and exercise equipment.

We were told that Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, was next confined in an electrical closet under guard.

The "electrical closet" turned out to be a spacious press room with video monitors and stationary bikes, and the "guard" turned out to be trainers who were checking on his head injury.

So we already know that Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, was exaggerating the circumstances to the point of nearly straight-up lies.

So the next question one might reasonably ask is: "why was he told to go there?"

Well Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, suffered a mild concussion not so long ago that had him sidelined, but was recently cleared by his own doctor to play.

Instead, he showed up to practice wearing sun glasses (presumably because of the concussion he had been cleared from), and offered his own diagnosis to coach Mike Leach.

That being that he was not feeling up to practice and instead would rest on the sidelines in his sunglasses while the rest of the team worked their tails off.

At this point, it's worth taking a step back and looking at the situation in it's totality.

First, I'd like to appeal to the former or still participating football players out there and ask them what they think their coach would have done if they had been cleared to play, but decided quite nonchalantly that they didn't feel like it.

I could very well ask this of any former or current athlete, but football coaches tend to be an ever harder breed; they're all like Bobby Knight.

What Mike Leach did was tell Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, that he'd be damned if was going to let him laze around on the sidelines in sunglasses while the rest of the team worked and if the sun was such a problem, that he'd be better off sitting out the practice in the equipment garage, where players often took respite from the heat.

And you know what? I can't be sure, but he probably said that forcefully and with an expletive or two laced in to accentuate his point.

That's what football coaches do.

It's their job to break you down until you understand that nobody is above the team.

Nobody, not even Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James.

In the recent aftermath of this fiasco, we also have heard testimony as to exactly the kind of player James was.

His receivers coach was quoted as saying that, "he undermined my authority on many occasions."

His fellow player Eric Morris said, "Ever since the day he arrived on the Texas Tech campus, you couldn't help but to feel a negative energy from him. He expected people to baby him and that he was going make it solely on the fact that his father was a very successful player."

A coach was quoted as recalling that James, "complained to me that we were not doing our jobs as coaches and that his effort was just fine."

There are other reports that he had been a problem many times before, so there was a substantial prior history before he showed up that day with his shades on.

There is absolutely nothing extraordinary about what Mike Leach did. If you've got a malignancy on your team you either have to cure it or separate it from the rest so it doesn't spread.

And from my experience under collegiate football coaches, it sounds like the kid got off pretty easy.

So why is this a big deal at all?

Well if you hadn't heard, Adam James is the son of ESPN analyst Craig James.

He's white, he's rich, and comes from a semi-famous family.

Because let's be honest,this is but the tip of the iceberg of the motivations a coach will employ to instill disciple and if this was just some black kid from the hood, we wouldn't have heard a damn thing about it.

In fact, his scholarship probably would've been pulled and he'd have been sent packing long ago.

If we did hear about it the first question we'd ask is, "Well what did he do?"

That's the same question Texas Tech wouldn've asked too.

Unless of course we're talking about Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James.

Instead, the administration went the other route and suspended their coach, with absolutely no evidence that he behaved inappropriately for their upcoming bowl game vs. Michigan State, thereby punishing the entire team for their hard work and effort this season.

And as recently reported by the AP, Leach has now been fired.

Football players are a tight knit group and I find it telling that not one of them has offered anything close to support for James (quite the opposite), whereas as a number have broken ranks in support of their coach.

And so I'd like to address the nation in my final words of this rant because I find this situation so absurd.

First of all, I'd like to apologise to women everywhere for my title, as I am really not comparing you to Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, but rather falling victim what I felt was a clever play on words.

Who knows, I'm probably wrong.

Second, have we really not evolved past the point where a white rich kid can take down an entire team for little more than his own injured pride?

Are we going to allow Little League Dad's to befoul college sports as well?

The kid had a mild concussion, whoopty- freaking-do.

If he wasn't feeling well, than the correct place for him was out of the sun not on the sidelines.

So unless some new piece of information is divulged and the overwhelming testimony of players and coaches somehow switches sides, then Texas Tech has a lot of "splaining" to do.

Let's give a man some due process before jumping off the deep end, validating a spoiled child's whining, and punishing the rest of the players who did nothing wrong.

Shame on them, and somewhere I imagine that Adam James, son of ESPN's Craig James, is smiling a dark spoiled smile to himself.

Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Oh damn, I was hoping for a simple thing. That's too much reading for my simple mind to comprehend today.

I heard on the radio that coach put some kid in a enclosed space because of a concussion or something?
UserPostedImage
dfosterf
15 years ago

Oh damn, I was hoping for a simple thing. That's too much reading for my simple mind to comprehend today.

I heard on the radio that coach put some kid in a enclosed space because of a concussion or something?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Kid was a pussy.

Coach tried to unfuck him.

Got fired for it...<------------last part debatable the "why" of the firing.

More better?

(Probably shock most to learn that I agree with him being fired, btw.-but I'm not going to get into it)
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Hmm, pussies. TOUGHIN UP!
UserPostedImage
longtimefan
15 years ago

Oh damn, I was hoping for a simple thing. That's too much reading for my simple mind to comprehend today.

I heard on the radio that coach put some kid in a enclosed space because of a concussion or something?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



LOL didnt I post that?
Porforis
15 years ago

Oh damn, I was hoping for a simple thing. That's too much reading for my simple mind to comprehend today.

I heard on the radio that coach put some kid in a enclosed space because of a concussion or something?

"longtimefan" wrote:



LOL didnt I post that?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



You did, I just thought he was too lazy to click on the link so I cut out the introductory commentary and posted the rest in here so he wouldn't have to. 😉
vikesrule
15 years ago

Oh damn, I was hoping for a simple thing. That's too much reading for my simple mind to comprehend today.

I heard on the radio that coach put some kid in a enclosed space because of a concussion or something?

"Porforis" wrote:



LOL didnt I post that?

"longtimefan" wrote:



You did, I just thought he was too lazy to click on the link so I cut out the introductory commentary and posted the rest in here so he wouldn't have to. ;)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I've been saying it for years now.....It is way past time!

I for one am more than willing to pitch in and contribute some money, so that we can get Zero2Cool some much needed and way overdue help!





UserPostedImage 
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (14-Feb) : Packers are hiring Luke Getsy as senior offensive assistant.
Martha Careful (12-Feb) : I would love to have them both, esp. Crosby, but either might be too expensive.
Zero2Cool (12-Feb) : Keisean Nixon is trying to get Maxx Crosby and Davante Adams lol
Mucky Tundra (11-Feb) : Yeah where did it go?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : or did you resctrict access to that topic?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : why did you remove the Playoff topic?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Tua’s old DC won a Super Bowl Year 1 with Tua’s former backup
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : *winning MVP
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : NFL thought it would get more attention week preceding Super Bowl.
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : pro bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : They moved it to the BYE week before Super Bowl several years ago.
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : it was always after the SB.....
beast (10-Feb) : Though I stop following pro bowl years ago
beast (10-Feb) : I thought the pro game was before the Super Bowl?
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : ok now for the Pro Bowl Game in Hawaii
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : VICTORY! We have (moral) victory!
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Hey they mentioned that we 3-peted
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Carter was 9th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles traded up for Carter, didn't they?
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : another crap halftime show
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
3h / Around The NFL / beast

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

15-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

14-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

14-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13-Feb / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

10-Feb / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

10-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

9-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

9-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / dhazer

7-Feb / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.