Zero2Cool
15 years ago
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In my story today about the Packers' playoff scenarios, I was incorrect when I said two losses by the Philadelphia Eagles would help the Packers.

I incorrectly applied the tiebreakers.

In actuality, it doesn't matter what the Eagles do. The worst the Eagles can finish in the NFC is 9-3. If the Packers finish 1-1, they will be 8-4. (That loss to Tampa Bay really hurts the Packers in this regard.)

So there only four possible ways for the Packers to make the playoffs:
[ul]1) Packers win their final two games;

OR

1) Packers go 1-1 and the Dallas Cowboys lose once;

OR

1) Packers go 1-1 and the New York Giants lose once.

OR

1) Packers go 0-2 and the Cowboys or Giants go 0-2.[/ul]

Here's why.

If the Eagles go 0-2, that will leave the Eagles, Packers and Giants tied at 10-6. In that scenario, the tiebreakers are applied like this (and this was confirmed with a league spokesman):

[ul]1) Eagles win division tiebreaker over the Giants since the Eagles swept the Giants;
2) Then you compare Eagles to the Packers. Eagles qualify for playoffs as fifth seed based on conference record (9-3 to 8-4);
3) That leaves the Packers and Giants. Giants qualify for playoffs as sixth seed based on record against common opponents (Green Bay has three losses; Giants one). Packers are eliminated.[/ul]

If the Eagles go 1-1 with a win on Sunday over the Denver Broncos and a loss to the Dallas Cowboys, the Eagles and Cowboys are 11-5, and Packers and Giants are 10-6. In that scenario:

1) Cowboys win NFC East because of sweep of Eagles;
2) Eagles qualify as the fifth seed at 11-5;
3) That leaves Packers and Giants tied at 10-6. Just like in the above scenario, Giants qualify for the playoffs as the sixth seed because of a better record against common opponents. Packers are eliminated.

I said last night on Twitter that Packers fans should root for Brett Favre and the Minnesota Vikings in both of their final two games.

I wasn't kidding.

If the Vikings beat the Chicago Bears on Sunday, the Arizona Cardinals have no chance at getting a first-round bye, meaning they would likely have nothing to play for against the Packers in the season finale. That would make getting the two wins required for the playoffs easier for the Packers.

And a win by the Vikings over the Giants in the final game of the season delivers a playoff berth to the Packers provided they beat the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday.


Zero2Cool
15 years ago
This talk of 'the Tamp game really hurts us' really annoys me. Didn't the TWO losses to the Vikings hurt us MORE? If we had split the contests we'd in a lot better shape even with losing the Tampa game.

It would give us another conference win as well as overall win while taking one of each away from the Vikings which without checking, puts us at the same 10 - 4 record and still in contention for the division and a home game, not to mention a possible one week bye.
IronMan
15 years ago

This talk of 'the Tamp game really hurts us' really annoys me. Didn't the TWO losses to the Vikings hurt us MORE? If we had split the contests we'd in a lot better shape even with losing the Tampa game.

It would give us another conference win as well as overall win while taking one of each away from the Vikings which without checking, puts us at the same 10 - 4 record and still in contention for the division and a home game, not to mention a possible one week bye.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Agreed. +1.
15 years ago
yeah...but that loss to Tampa was incredibly ridiculous whereas the losses to the Vikqueens were not completely unprecedented.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


isocleas2
15 years ago
Cheer for the Eagles this week. Two great things happen if they win:

1.) The Vikings will have to play their starters against the Giants the final week of the season because if they lose the Eagles could possibly win the #2 seed.

2.) Arizona will have nothing to play for having been locked into the #4 seed before they host the Pack.
macbob
15 years ago
The Tampa game helped more than it hurt, in my opinion. The team right now is playing at a much higher level than they did prior to that loss.

I'm just hoping for another shot at the viQueens--I think the outcome would be different third time around.
Cheesey
15 years ago
All these possibilities makes my head hurt. I HOPE we win out, and don't have to worry about what other teams do.
That said, i'd LOVE a win tomorrow, and a loss by the Plowboys or Giants. Then we would be in, and not have to worry.

Zero2Cool
15 years ago

yeah...but that loss to Tampa was incredibly ridiculous whereas the losses to the Vikqueens were not completely unprecedented.

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:




I disagree. Losing to Tampa was expected, even I predicted that we'd lose that one as we don't seem to win at that stadium, ever. Granted, once I seen how bad they were doing this year, I felt we had a chance to break the curse. However, it's not a surprise that a lesser team beats another team when they are (as I said repeatedly) over confident in their own abilities. So, no, the loss to Tampa was not unprecedented. People fail to look at the big picture after they see a team that is 0 and what not suddenly they are garbage.

The Vikings game, we should have won one of them.
15 years ago

The Tampa game helped more than it hurt, in my opinion. The team right now is playing at a much higher level than they did prior to that loss.

I'm just hoping for another shot at the viQueens--I think the outcome would be different third time around.

"macbob" wrote:

Good point.

Losing to Tampa could of been a reason why we had a 5 game win streak.
shield4life
15 years ago
Let's start by winning this weekend. Go Packs Go ... I'm sure Dallas or Giants are going to drop a game. I think Dallas is going to lose to the Eagles.
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packerfanoutwest (10h) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (12h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (12h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (13h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (13h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (13h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (13h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (13h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (13h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (14h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (14h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (14h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (14h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (14h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (15h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (15h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (15h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (15h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (16h) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (16h) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (16h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (16h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (16h) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (17h) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (18h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (18h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (19h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (19h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (19h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (19h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (19h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (19h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (19h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (19h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (19h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (19h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (19h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (19h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (19h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (19h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (19h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (19h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (19h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
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