matteogb4
15 years ago

We are NOT the number one defense but nobody can disagree with one fact: we are ONE HELL OF A LOT BETTER THEN LAST YEAR! And that is what matters. If our O continues executing and we shy away from those pansy 4th quarter play calling, we will be fine!

Hey let me rephrase: statistically we may be number one but you and I know we are not yet the REAL NUMBER ONE of the bunch... That was what i meant ;)

"Belgian_Packer" wrote:




welcome jan...nice to see u here
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15 years ago

I wonder what ours and Minnesotas defenses would be ranked if we had to play teams of the offensive caliber of NO and Arizona regularly.

I mean come on, we each get to play Chicago and Detroit twice a year. This year we got the AFC central which don't exactly light it up.

My point is I don't think we have the number 1 defense because I don't believe we could shut down NO, Arizona, Minnesota, New England, or the Colts.

I do however think that we have made tremendous strides this season and I anticipate with great enthusiasm continued improvement.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Well we did knock Dallas completely off of their game for 2 weeks, after they were on a roll offensively for a month.
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DakotaT
15 years ago



Well we did knock Dallas completely off of their game for 2 weeks, after they were on a roll offensively for a month.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:




Maybe we should put this conversation on hold until after the playoffs? I really believe the best way to judge a defense is big plays allowed and at what consistency can you get off the field on third down. When we played the Vikings, we gave up too much of both. Another good gauge is hits / sacks on the quarterback. Yards per game just doesn't cut for me. It's like saying you're a 10-6 division champion and the rest of your division is 4-12. I'm sorry but you just won a weak fricken division and you're gonna get pounded by a more tested team in the playoffs.
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15 years ago
You're right on all counts. I think our D is inconsistent right now. They've shown the potential for greatness but have also had some very poor games, relative to the quality of the opposing offenses. Taking a quick look at the numbers in my power rankings Excel table, they have had 4 good performances and 4 bad performances.
You have to also consider growing pains of a new system. All of the players say they are becoming much more comfortable in Capers' scheme lately.
I don't think it's a given that they get pounded by any tested team in the playoffs, although it is possible.
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matteogb4
15 years ago
why do we have to be so pessimistic???

ok, maybe we are not the best D but for sure we are a top 10 and maybe a top 5....with a lot of room of improvement...and if we think to last year.

so i am optimistic for the next year and we can be dangerous even this year.
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DakotaT
15 years ago

You're right on all counts. I think our D is inconsistent right now. They've shown the potential for greatness but have also had some very poor games, relative to the quality of the opposing offenses. Taking a quick look at the numbers in my power rankings Excel table, they have had 4 good performances and 4 bad performances.
You have to also consider growing pains of a new system. All of the players say they are becoming much more comfortable in Capers' scheme lately.
I don't think it's a given that they get pounded by any tested team in the playoffs, although it is possible.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Remember the Sherman years? Mass, you still going to Pittsburgh in a couple weeks or did you sell off your tickets for diapers?
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DakotaT
15 years ago

why do we have to be so pessimistic???

ok, maybe we are not the best D but for sure we are a top 10 and maybe a top 5....with a lot of room of improvement...and if we think to last year.

so i am optimistic for the next year and we can be dangerous even this year.

"matteogb4" wrote:



It's not pessimism, all I'm saying is tread lightly with being called the #1 defense. We were the # 1 pass defense last year until Brees lit us up like a Christmas tree.
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15 years ago

You're right on all counts. I think our D is inconsistent right now. They've shown the potential for greatness but have also had some very poor games, relative to the quality of the opposing offenses. Taking a quick look at the numbers in my power rankings Excel table, they have had 4 good performances and 4 bad performances.
You have to also consider growing pains of a new system. All of the players say they are becoming much more comfortable in Capers' scheme lately.
I don't think it's a given that they get pounded by any tested team in the playoffs, although it is possible.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Remember the Sherman years? Mass, you still going to Pittsburgh in a couple weeks or did you sell off your tickets for diapers?

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Still going! My pops is treating me to it - sort of a last escape before parenthood has me by the cojones.
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matteogb4
15 years ago

why do we have to be so pessimistic???

ok, maybe we are not the best D but for sure we are a top 10 and maybe a top 5....with a lot of room of improvement...and if we think to last year.

so i am optimistic for the next year and we can be dangerous even this year.

"DakotaT" wrote:



It's not pessimism, all I'm saying is tread lightly with being called the #1 defense. We were the # 1 pass defense last year until Brees lit us up like a Christmas tree.

"matteogb4" wrote:




last year we were the 1st pass defense because everybody was running on us...this year the story is different...we saw improvement and we are gonna improve next year again...give time
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Gravedigga
15 years ago

Click HERE  to see that we ARE the number one ranked defense. Unless, you don't think the NFL.com website speaks the truth.


Granted, its by yards, not the greatest measurement of how a overall defense performs.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



There are a few defenses i'd take before GB but i think we're definitely top 5 - 8.
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